Comments on: We have numbers already for the election…Updated “final” results http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/ Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:25:57 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sujay http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-347024 Sujay Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:46:03 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-347024 Great minds .... Here's my comment from November 4: "The real loser tonight was voting for a name. English and Polly both lost, despite their popular surnames. And two years ago Marty Skeldon lost to an unknown Tom Waniewski. Voters might just be getting sick of playing the name game. Only time will tell…." A bit slow on the uptake was Johnny Hildo, who only today made the vary same point in the City Paper. Go to http://www.toledocitypaper.com/index.php?/The-City/Politics/a-dogs-life.html Great minds …. Here’s my comment from November 4:

“The real loser tonight was voting for a name. English and Polly both lost, despite their popular surnames. And two years ago Marty Skeldon lost to an unknown Tom Waniewski. Voters might just be getting sick of playing the name game. Only time will tell….”

A bit slow on the uptake was Johnny Hildo, who only today made the vary same point in the City Paper. Go to http://www.toledocitypaper.com/index.php?/The-City/Politics/a-dogs-life.html

]]> By: Sujay http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345692 Sujay Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:25:03 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345692 bgdem (#56 and 57) - You're 100% right. Also, Polly lost in part because she entered the race so late. Yes, the lack of a Blade endorsement hurt, as did the unpopularity of the Gerken name with Republicans and some independents. But I really think that had she started early, raised money, gone to events and gotten her name out she would have edged out a previously unknown Adam Martinez and captured the #6 slot. Live and learn. bgdem (#56 and 57) – You’re 100% right.

Also, Polly lost in part because she entered the race so late. Yes, the lack of a Blade endorsement hurt, as did the unpopularity of the Gerken name with Republicans and some independents. But I really think that had she started early, raised money, gone to events and gotten her name out she would have edged out a previously unknown Adam Martinez and captured the #6 slot. Live and learn.

]]> By: GuestZero http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345673 GuestZero Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:46:15 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345673 Well, the voters chose political operators for the TPS board. Our reform efforts have completely failed. Ms Fisher was our only voice and now she's been removed. We're probably going to see efforts from TPS administrators to pay themselves fat bonuses again. It's so terrible to watch nearly a decade of any progress be so summarily erased. Well, the voters chose political operators for the TPS board. Our reform efforts have completely failed. Ms Fisher was our only voice and now she’s been removed. We’re probably going to see efforts from TPS administrators to pay themselves fat bonuses again. It’s so terrible to watch nearly a decade of any progress be so summarily erased.

]]> By: Robin http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345667 Robin Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:51:20 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345667 "I can’t believe Larry Sykes was returned to the School Board " --- I can't believe that either. *shakes head* “I can’t believe Larry Sykes was returned to the School Board ”

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I can’t believe that either. *shakes head*

]]> By: mindy http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345651 mindy Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:24:32 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345651 Not Again & Brian, "Nope, we both picked it up from a crazy man from Florida…" Rogue's right...we picked it up from one Mr. Dickson, from St. Pete years ago when we were both young and had good attitudes! Looong time ago! BTW...Rogue, Mr. Dickson and Melvin send their regards. mj Not Again & Brian,

“Nope, we both picked it up from a crazy man from Florida…”

Rogue’s right…we picked it up from one Mr. Dickson, from St. Pete years ago when we were both young and had good attitudes! Looong time ago!

BTW…Rogue, Mr. Dickson and Melvin send their regards.

mj

]]> By: Doug http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345649 Doug Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:06:55 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345649 I never said all 10,000 people who voted for Lyons was a protest vote. I just think a very good many of them did and that i'm not quite as much in the minority as you have said I was. Ironically, people saying a protest vote wasn't really there serves another purpose. I never said all 10,000 people who voted for Lyons was a protest vote. I just think a very good many of them did and that i’m not quite as much in the minority as you have said I was. Ironically, people saying a protest vote wasn’t really there serves another purpose.

]]> By: LisaRenee http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345641 LisaRenee Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:28:01 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345641 I understand why, it serves a better purpose for some of you to be able to say over 10,000 joined you in a protest vote than to say large numbers of Toledo residents didn't pay attention to signs (though they were not posted at all precincts in a visible position) and voted for someone who quit. I just don't happen to believe given electoral history, that a majority were protest votes. I understand why, it serves a better purpose for some of you to be able to say over 10,000 joined you in a protest vote than to say large numbers of Toledo residents didn’t pay attention to signs (though they were not posted at all precincts in a visible position) and voted for someone who quit.

I just don’t happen to believe given electoral history, that a majority were protest votes.

]]> By: LisaRenee http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345640 LisaRenee Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:24:05 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345640 Doug, what I have said that you have tried to take issue with is a fact, there is a base of voters in Toledo who do not vote from an informed position. I never said it was a majority, but they exist and they can have an impact on an election if it is close. That's a reality that extends beyond Toledo. You want to believe all of those who voted for Lyons did as protest votes, I never stated the protest votes did not happen, I disagree that was the main factor. As I also stated, it's been fairly well discussed, more than those who actually continued campaigning.... Doug, what I have said that you have tried to take issue with is a fact, there is a base of voters in Toledo who do not vote from an informed position. I never said it was a majority, but they exist and they can have an impact on an election if it is close.

That’s a reality that extends beyond Toledo.

You want to believe all of those who voted for Lyons did as protest votes, I never stated the protest votes did not happen, I disagree that was the main factor. As I also stated, it’s been fairly well discussed, more than those who actually continued campaigning….

]]> By: Doug http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345639 Doug Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:17:34 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345639 So again I have no idea why she didn't win if what you say about Toledo voters is true. If like you said before, and I believe you, that uninformed voters base thier choice on name and gender she should have won. By all accounts the Gerken name has an overall positive view. Now we have an assumption that the majority of Toledo voters are uninformed. But can that be completely true if she didn't win? Her not winning says that maybe the majority actually voted for who they wanted based on more than just gender and name. Just because we don't like or understand every result, we shouldn't just discount everyone else as uninformed. So again I have no idea why she didn’t win if what you say about Toledo voters is true. If like you said before, and I believe you, that uninformed voters base thier choice on name and gender she should have won. By all accounts the Gerken name has an overall positive view. Now we have an assumption that the majority of Toledo voters are uninformed. But can that be completely true if she didn’t win? Her not winning says that maybe the majority actually voted for who they wanted based on more than just gender and name.

Just because we don’t like or understand every result, we shouldn’t just discount everyone else as uninformed.

]]> By: LisaRenee http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/we-have-numbers-already-for-the-election/#comment-345636 LisaRenee Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:36:30 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10531#comment-345636 I don't know, was it? We don't know beyond knowing if it was a positive it was not enough for her to beat Martinez. I've already stated there is always more than one reason, but something happened where being the only woman "really" on the ballot did not translate into a win. I don’t know, was it? We don’t know beyond knowing if it was a positive it was not enough for her to beat Martinez. I’ve already stated there is always more than one reason, but something happened where being the only woman “really” on the ballot did not translate into a win.

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