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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347054</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize if you are offended by what I wrote. I will let this one go and just say that I hope the decision will always stay between the doctors and patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize if you are offended by what I wrote. I will let this one go and just say that I hope the decision will always stay between the doctors and patients.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347027</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how you could get that from what Peterson wrote, or get that from the actual facts as presented.  The only way you could believe that is if you believe that the Obama administration a) had something to do with this panel which it didn&#039;t.  b) believed this panel had the same authority as the ACIP - which it doesn&#039;t or c) ignored the fact that the Obama administration does not agree with the recommendations made by the panel.  

Doug and John&#039;s comments about me were totally incorrect and the material they were trying to discuss that was at issue was not related to the topic of the mammogram panel. 

Which is all a moot point now because when a thread goes like this one?  The discussion ends up being dead which is why I take issue with those who try to make it about me or take the topic into other areas.  If anything the additional material John posted demonstrated that there is no risk of the mammogram panel&#039;s recommendations becoming something that either the government or insurance companies followed because it does not have the powers necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how you could get that from what Peterson wrote, or get that from the actual facts as presented.  The only way you could believe that is if you believe that the Obama administration a) had something to do with this panel which it didn&#8217;t.  b) believed this panel had the same authority as the ACIP &#8211; which it doesn&#8217;t or c) ignored the fact that the Obama administration does not agree with the recommendations made by the panel.  </p>
<p>Doug and John&#8217;s comments about me were totally incorrect and the material they were trying to discuss that was at issue was not related to the topic of the mammogram panel. </p>
<p>Which is all a moot point now because when a thread goes like this one?  The discussion ends up being dead which is why I take issue with those who try to make it about me or take the topic into other areas.  If anything the additional material John posted demonstrated that there is no risk of the mammogram panel&#8217;s recommendations becoming something that either the government or insurance companies followed because it does not have the powers necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Again</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347022</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Chrys Peterson blog post on this topic.  And it makes it even more clear that Doug&#039;s and john&#039;s comments were totally on topic.

Lisa Chrys Peterson&#039;s blog is exactly what they have been talking about.  And that is what will happen if obama care happens.  Women will not be allowed to have the mammograms that could save lives.  which is the way they want it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Chrys Peterson blog post on this topic.  And it makes it even more clear that Doug&#8217;s and john&#8217;s comments were totally on topic.</p>
<p>Lisa Chrys Peterson&#8217;s blog is exactly what they have been talking about.  And that is what will happen if obama care happens.  Women will not be allowed to have the mammograms that could save lives.  which is the way they want it.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347019</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What makes perfect sense to me is staying on topic and not interjecting material that could create the wrong impression and trying to make things about me rather than the simple basic material?  Does not create discussion on the actual topic and actually kills the discussion for others since most just decide it&#039;s not worth it.  

It&#039;s unfortunate, Chrys Peterson&#039;s blog post was something I&#039;d hoped would spark discussion rather than attempting to create some type of disagreement that doesn&#039;t even exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes perfect sense to me is staying on topic and not interjecting material that could create the wrong impression and trying to make things about me rather than the simple basic material?  Does not create discussion on the actual topic and actually kills the discussion for others since most just decide it&#8217;s not worth it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate, Chrys Peterson&#8217;s blog post was something I&#8217;d hoped would spark discussion rather than attempting to create some type of disagreement that doesn&#8217;t even exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Again</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347018</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying that Doug, it makes perfect sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying that Doug, it makes perfect sense.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347017</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m sorry it seems &quot;fishy&quot; to you, but I always try to keep things on topic and to avoid/diminish confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m sorry it seems &#8220;fishy&#8221; to you, but I always try to keep things on topic and to avoid/diminish confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347016</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,
I guess it was confusing to me that you pointed out ACIP at all. John just copied the text from the health bill and included the entire subsection. He made no mention of it in his post.

From the health bill
1) is UPSTF (mammograms) 
2) is ACIP (immunization)
3) is Health Resources and Services Administration (children). 

You just pointed out section two as having nothing to do with mammograms but not section 3? It all seems fishy and like diversion. His posting of the health bill contradicts what you posted in #32. I hope you weren&#039;t trying to create a side argument to deviate from that. Obama is pushing this health care bill, the bill gives power to the committee that comes out with these recommendations, therefore it can be inferred that what I said in post #27 is true: his administration will be the one that enforces the recommendations of the UPSTF committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,<br />
I guess it was confusing to me that you pointed out ACIP at all. John just copied the text from the health bill and included the entire subsection. He made no mention of it in his post.</p>
<p>From the health bill<br />
1) is UPSTF (mammograms)<br />
2) is ACIP (immunization)<br />
3) is Health Resources and Services Administration (children). </p>
<p>You just pointed out section two as having nothing to do with mammograms but not section 3? It all seems fishy and like diversion. His posting of the health bill contradicts what you posted in #32. I hope you weren&#8217;t trying to create a side argument to deviate from that. Obama is pushing this health care bill, the bill gives power to the committee that comes out with these recommendations, therefore it can be inferred that what I said in post #27 is true: his administration will be the one that enforces the recommendations of the UPSTF committee.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-347009</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, I can&#039;t tell you why it&#039;s become an issue, for you or John all I was doing was making sure readers knew that the ACIP had nothing to do with this particular issue, which is the mammogram panel, that&#039;s what this thread is about and did not have the same powers as the ACIP.  I thought it was rather simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, I can&#8217;t tell you why it&#8217;s become an issue, for you or John all I was doing was making sure readers knew that the ACIP had nothing to do with this particular issue, which is the mammogram panel, that&#8217;s what this thread is about and did not have the same powers as the ACIP.  I thought it was rather simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-346987</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,
I am confused what point you are trying to make with John&#039;s posts? The first link in the original post talked about the new recommendations, the current powers of this panel, and everyone else&#039;s views on it. The second link tells women to ignore the recommendations.

So I think John&#039;s posting the senate health care bill excerpt is VERY much in topic to the original article as it clearly points out that the recommendations made by UPSTF will become the standard insurance companies will have to follow. So women won&#039;t be able to ignore these recommendations if thier insurance doesn&#039;t cover it because of this panels new found powers through the health bill.

I really don&#039;t know where ACIP has anything to do with anything in this post other than it was latched on to for no apparent reason other than maybe diversion? If John was guilty of anything it would be copying and pasting too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,<br />
I am confused what point you are trying to make with John&#8217;s posts? The first link in the original post talked about the new recommendations, the current powers of this panel, and everyone else&#8217;s views on it. The second link tells women to ignore the recommendations.</p>
<p>So I think John&#8217;s posting the senate health care bill excerpt is VERY much in topic to the original article as it clearly points out that the recommendations made by UPSTF will become the standard insurance companies will have to follow. So women won&#8217;t be able to ignore these recommendations if thier insurance doesn&#8217;t cover it because of this panels new found powers through the health bill.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know where ACIP has anything to do with anything in this post other than it was latched on to for no apparent reason other than maybe diversion? If John was guilty of anything it would be copying and pasting too much?</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/the-mammogram-controversy/#comment-346978</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those interested in the original topic, I recommend &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wtol.com/Global/Link.asp?L=368094&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chrys Peterson&#039;s blog post&lt;/a&gt; on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested in the original topic, I recommend <a href="http://www.wtol.com/Global/Link.asp?L=368094" rel="nofollow">Chrys Peterson&#8217;s blog post</a> on this topic.</p>
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