Comments on: RNC sends out “2009 Obama Agenda Survey” http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/ Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:25:57 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kateb http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346447 kateb Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:34:12 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346447 Well as a Christian conservative who's been a Republican for many years and only recently decided to become Independent - this survey is the best example as to WHY so many Republicans are now Independents. Including my own retired father, a Methodist minister and my mother - a CPA and estate planner. You don't get much more conservative than my family. The questions are full of factually incorrect suppositions used to create false inflammatory questions to create even more of a divide in Americans. We're tired of this. We no longer take what these people say at face value because they are liars. And look what they've done? They've created, along with the DNC, the impression that every liberal wants to kill unborn children and all conservatives think that aids is God's punishment to gay people. Well it's crap. None of us feel that way and it's time that we all stopped accepting political parties starting grass fires and arguments between people based on lies and misinformation. Well as a Christian conservative who’s been a Republican for many years and only recently decided to become Independent – this survey is the best example as to WHY so many Republicans are now Independents. Including my own retired father, a Methodist minister and my mother – a CPA and estate planner. You don’t get much more conservative than my family.

The questions are full of factually incorrect suppositions used to create false inflammatory questions to create even more of a divide in Americans.

We’re tired of this. We no longer take what these people say at face value because they are liars. And look what they’ve done? They’ve created, along with the DNC, the impression that every liberal wants to kill unborn children and all conservatives think that aids is God’s punishment to gay people.

Well it’s crap. None of us feel that way and it’s time that we all stopped accepting political parties starting grass fires and arguments between people based on lies and misinformation.

]]> By: Not Again http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346408 Not Again Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:28:12 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346408 I'll take push polling by libs or cons on the phone, over physical threats with night sticks at the actual polling places by the panthers in PA, any day. I’ll take push polling by libs or cons on the phone, over physical threats with night sticks at the actual polling places by the panthers in PA, any day.

]]> By: LisaRenee http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346404 LisaRenee Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:23:25 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346404 This was in written form and included a request for a donation, but I don't disagree it's similar to push polling, which unfortunately Democrats have also done though the Bush/McCain item referenced does go down in history as one of the most known push polling incidents. This was in written form and included a request for a donation, but I don’t disagree it’s similar to push polling, which unfortunately Democrats have also done though the Bush/McCain item referenced does go down in history as one of the most known push polling incidents.

]]> By: SensorG http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346399 SensorG Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:11:35 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346399 They call it push polling. Bush II used them very effectively against against McCain back in 2000. They'd call and ask people things like "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" They call it push polling.

Bush II used them very effectively against against McCain back in 2000. They’d call and ask people things like “Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?”

]]> By: LisaRenee http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346385 LisaRenee Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:44:33 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346385 The link included with the post points out some of the material that was questioned, I didn't think it was necessary to point out the numbers used for the debt were not correct, or that the items being stated as being supported by Democrats is not accurate either, especially the <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_gestapo-like_civilian_national.html" rel="nofollow">Citizen Volunteer Corps</a>. Most of those who read this blog are more politically savvy than your average citizen. I firmly believe you can disagree with the President, as a Democrat I don't always agree with the Democrats in office, including the President. What I take issue with is a lack of transparency, and I think it's clear that these questions were worded in a manner that was not completely honest. But? That's how fundraising works and my party is not always the beacon of light and transparency either. The link included with the post points out some of the material that was questioned, I didn’t think it was necessary to point out the numbers used for the debt were not correct, or that the items being stated as being supported by Democrats is not accurate either, especially the Citizen Volunteer Corps. Most of those who read this blog are more politically savvy than your average citizen.

I firmly believe you can disagree with the President, as a Democrat I don’t always agree with the Democrats in office, including the President. What I take issue with is a lack of transparency, and I think it’s clear that these questions were worded in a manner that was not completely honest. But? That’s how fundraising works and my party is not always the beacon of light and transparency either.

]]> By: SensorG http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346383 SensorG Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:23:16 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346383 I had a call from the NRA a couple of nights ago. They asked me if I supported Hilary Clinton and the UN voting to take away every American's gun. She didn't like my response... I had a call from the NRA a couple of nights ago. They asked me if I supported Hilary Clinton and the UN voting to take away every American’s gun.

She didn’t like my response…

]]> By: Voice of Reason http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346382 Voice of Reason Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:21:16 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346382 The Obama administration and its supporters are quick to condemn their opponents for making observations that are critical of the administration's policies, but they rarely address the substance of the opposing argument. Taking the 15 questions above at face value, I stand firm on my answers, as do many from the center to the right. If these questions are suggesting something that you think includes a flawed assumption, please identify the flaw, correct it and we'll debate the merits of the issue going forward. We don't see much of that approach these days. From what I've seen (present company exepted, Lisa), if you disagree with Obama, you're a damn liar - end of discussion. The Obama administration and its supporters are quick to condemn their opponents for making observations that are critical of the administration’s policies, but they rarely address the substance of the opposing argument.

Taking the 15 questions above at face value, I stand firm on my answers, as do many from the center to the right.

If these questions are suggesting something that you think includes a flawed assumption, please identify the flaw, correct it and we’ll debate the merits of the issue going forward.

We don’t see much of that approach these days. From what I’ve seen (present company exepted, Lisa), if you disagree with Obama, you’re a damn liar – end of discussion.

]]> By: LisaRenee http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346380 LisaRenee Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:20:34 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346380 Maybe most conservatives, but most of the questions are not really accurate to give an honest answer. Maybe most conservatives, but most of the questions are not really accurate to give an honest answer.

]]> By: Voice of Reason http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/11/rnc-sends-out-2009-obama-agenda-survey/#comment-346379 Voice of Reason Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:18:29 +0000 http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/?p=10655#comment-346379 And the answers from most Americans are: No, yes, no, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the answers from most Americans are:

No, yes, no, yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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