Preferential treatment when it comes to H1N1 vaccines: Shocking or Expected?
17 Nov 2009
We live in a world where preferential treatment exists, that’s a given. Is it shocking that vaccinations against the H1N1 virus were delivered and administered on the 22nd floor of One Government Center? Christine Long’s story on WTVG H1N1 vaccine delivered to top city officials creates that as a question. When you learn that the prosecutor’s office and Family Services also received preferential treatment, is it less of an issue?
Should the focus also be on creating a better delivery system so that those who are able to get preferential treatment not forced to wait for hours? Or has there been too much focus by the State on things like bubbles?
Welcome to government run health care. Government officials/party members are the elite.
November 17th, 2009 at 4:45 pmThey can keep the vaccine – make it mandatory for a certain mayor.
This is EXTREMELY anecdotal, but the one person I do know who took the h1n1 vaccine is now at the Cleveland Clinic bc migraines and numbness in their entire body has not stopped since getting the vaccine. Local neurologists were baffled.
The real effectiveness of the regular flu vaccine is not even known. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102200042.html
Of course one shouldn’t be surprised about pref treatment – it happens with red light cameras and the rest. It shouldn’t be shocking, but it should be met with outrage over the few who think they are better and more important than us useless peons.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:09 pmMy kids got the first of two shots about a month ago. Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure we all (wife, kids and I) got it about a week later. Had all the classic flu symptoms and it took 4-7 days to run its course.
A couple of weeks ago my wife was volunteering and giving the shots. She was able to get her’s then.
Can’t have the people giving the shots getting sick.
Now this Friday my kid’s school is giving the shot. It will be the first shot for most of the kids, but the second for mine. May not matter if we did in fact have H1N1, but better safe then sorry.
I’ll get mine eventually, but the shots are plentiful if you’re willing to wait in a line for a couple of hours.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:31 pmI watched that on the news last night, and what struck me most was Bob Reinbolt’s justification that he is the Safety Director. He said that he was a first responder, which made him a priority. Are you kidding me? Since when did he become a first responder? I would love to know the last time he ever went on a police or fire run. It was an absolutely ridiculous justification for his preferential treatment. So not only has he been the Director of Public Service, Director of Health, Commissioner of Utilities, Commissioner of Environmental Services, Commissioner of Planning and Special Projects, and Assistant City Manager, now he is also a police officer, firefighter, and all around hero. Unbelievable!
November 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pmSenior Citizens are concerned when
they will be able to get them. They
are told they will get them later.
So, stay away from Grandma and
November 17th, 2009 at 9:17 pmGrandpa for Thanksgiving and the
Holidays, they do not want you, your
family, and friends
infecting them when they are not
important enough to give them the
vaccine.
The reason the elderly are getting the shots later is because in the first wave in the spring, hardly none of them got sick. Because they are older they have had the seasonal flu many times and actually have a pretty good immunity built up to the flu.
This has been a few weeks ago, but we were told there were no documented cases of anyone over 50 contracting H1N1 in Central Ohio.
On the other hand, children and young adults were getting H1N1 at a fast rate and most of the deaths have been from this population.
The CDC studied the data from the first wave to determine who the at risk populations were.
My guess is that the reason the city administration was vaccinated is that they are considered first responders. If for some reason H1N1 becomes even more viral, they would be the people coordinating services.
Doctor’s and nurse’s are also first responders which is why they were one of the first people to get the vaccine.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pmMadrigal, they may be considered first responders in title, but they are NOT first responders. Until Carty, Bob Reinbolt, or any of his other buddies roll up to a crazy man yielding a knife or gun, run into a burning building, or wake up in the middle of the night to help an ill person, they are NOT first responders. And frankly, I find it incredibly offensive that they would even throw that title around when they have never done the job of people who actually earned that title. Pregnant women, children, and the elderly are waiting in lines of 2+ hours for their shots. The Finkbeiner administration is no better than any of those people.
November 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pmChildren are around children at school
their brothers and sisters, Mom and
Dad at home.
With the holidays coming up children
and other adults will be around
Grandma and Grandpa (senior citizens)
more and senior citizens will be
exposed even more.
ANYONE CAN GET THE H1N1!! studies as this
mean absolutely nothing to me and
most senior citizens.
The study is just an excuse for giving
it to others!!
It needed to be given as in past
November 17th, 2009 at 10:08 pmon a First THAT COMES IS WHO GETS IT BASIS!!
kc, I’m from Columbus and not knowledgeable on the politics of Toledo. My main reason for the post was to explain how the high risk groups were selected.
Being in the health care field I have been trained at length on flu pandemics. You would not believe the nightmare scenarios that have been planned for. If one of those comes true, I don’t care how much I might dislike my mayor, I don’t want him or his staff in the hospital because of H1N1.
Sue, by the past, I believe your talking about the seasonal flu. This is not that. If the vaccine was given on a first come first serve basis, 2 hour waits would have turned into 2 week waits, and the most vulnerable citizens would be in danger.
My guess is that your grandchildren are in one of the groups to be vaccinated first. So go ahead, invite them over for turkey day
November 17th, 2009 at 10:32 pmNO, I am not talking about the
seasonal flu. I mentioned H1N1
and that is what I am talking about.
Studies can show anything or show
whatever one wants them to show.
Just as the study that just came out
regarding Breast Cancer and the results
from that and were just given in the
news. If you have been listening to the news Women between 40 to 50 are very upset
with what the study suggests.
That study and also the study you
have given can show anything.
However, your study does not prove to
me or anyone else that senior citizens
are incapable of getting the H1N1
Many senior citizens take the seasonal
November 17th, 2009 at 10:53 pmflu shot every year to protect themselves from getting it; likewise, they need to have
the opportunty to take the H1N1 vaccine if they choose to do so and
be on a first come first serve basis!
Sue, thanks for clarifying which flu you were talking about.
But I’m afraid your mixing research studies with actual raw data. These at risk groups were chosen because local health departments, hospitals, and doctor’s reported the actual demographics of those who contracted H1N1. It’s not a study. It’s an actual count of who got the flu.
I enjoy respectful spirited debate, so please take this with the spirit in which it’s intended.
Evidently, you want to be vaccinated. I find it interesting that you distrust the decision on who should get the vaccine, but are willing to believe the research that created the vaccine.
Yes, anyone can get H1N1. No, if your over 50, your likely not to get sick. I am 53 and was happy to find out that I was not a high risk group. As a matter of fact, by some, I am considered a first responder.
As social worker, I have been slated to help at some of the free clinics. However, due to the limited supply of vaccine, I made the decision not to become vaccinated so there would be more for the at risk groups.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pmSue –
Why would we take the limited supply of vaccine from children (the most vulnerable group) and give it seniors (the least vulnerable group) just be cause “they want it” and you/they can’t understand studies aka science.
Seniors simple aren’t getting sick. My wife is in the health care field. She hasn’t seen an up tick in seniors getting the flu, but the sheer numbers young adults and children getting sick has her scared.
That’s why she took the kids two counties over last month to get the first shot and is volunteering her time to give out shots to others.
Luckily while H1N1 is very contagious, its not very deadly.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pmEvidently no one gets the point!
November 17th, 2009 at 11:41 pmI think I get your point, Sue, that you don’t think that those on the 22nd floor should get the vaccine ahead of others and that even those in groups not considered to be “high risk” according to the State should be able to get the vaccine if they want it.
Is that right?
November 17th, 2009 at 11:45 pmRight on Lisa Renee!!
Why exclude seniors or particular
groups of people??
FIRST COME FIRST SERVE!!
November 17th, 2009 at 11:47 pmI’m guessing the argument would be since they haven’t done a great job in manufacturing enough of the vaccine to go around they are trying to limit who gets it to those considered high risk. Which if someone who is not high risk wants it and is not able to get it and then something happens? Could create a problem.
I’m not getting it, I’m more concerned with the possible side effects and the fact that this was not really tested that well prior to it being put out there. But, I realize others have faith in these vaccines and want them.
But, I understand your point Sue, and I’m sure there are those that would agree with you. It’s unfortunate that the number of vaccines they thought they’d have they don’t. It would have avoided most of this.
November 17th, 2009 at 11:52 pmMany have questioned the seasonal
flu vaccine from the very beginning.
Seasonal flu shot does not actually
always keep someone from getting it,
but if they do they do not usually
get the flu quite as bad ad if one
did not have it all.
I those on 22 can have it now then
anyone who wants the H1N1 vaccine
should be on FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
Guess we are living in a new, foreign
November 18th, 2009 at 12:01 amcountry. Government can choose
who get what & when.
Many have questioned the seasonal
flu vaccine from the very beginning.
Seasonal flu shot does not actually
always keep someone from getting it,
but if they do they do not usually
get the flu quite as bad ad if one
did not have it all.
I those on 22 can have it now then
anyone who wants the H1N1 vaccine
should be on FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
Guess we are living in a new, foreign
November 18th, 2009 at 12:02 amcountry. Government can choose
who gets what & when.
Unfortunately this has happened in the past as well when there has been a new strain of the flu and they didn’t have enough vaccines to go around. Doesn’t make it any better for those concerned about H1N1 but it does create questions.
More questions would have been raised if those on 22 who didn’t meet the risk categories would have gotten the vaccine, it was implied that only those with chronic medical conditions qualified from WTVG’s reporting of it.
November 18th, 2009 at 12:07 amWhen it comes to each individual
person’s health not one individual
or group of people are better than
the other especially when it comes
to a contagious disease.
Each person in the United States of
November 18th, 2009 at 7:07 amAmerica has a right to the opportunity
to receive whatever is available to
protect their health. If one does
not want it that is their choice;
however, if they do want it they
need to have the opportunity to receive
whatever until possibly there is
more available.
Good Morning All,
Wow…good topic!
Having sat in on a meeting yesterday going on ad nauseum about h1n1, I am still more concerned that there isn’t more seasonal flu vaccine available for the community.
As the director of nursing of a long term care facility, I am not nearly as worried about the residents as I am worried about my staff. Many of those young women are in the higher catagories of needing vaccinated from h1n1 as a result of 1) working in healthcare 2) being pregnant 3) having young children in their homes 4) being under age 24.
I placed an order with ODH back in September and have only received updates that we are still on the list to receive the vaccine for the most at risk employees and residents…who knows how long it will take to trickle down this low on the heap.
I have advised those employees that are in the at risk groups to take advantage of the clinics, yet few have.
Sue when you say,
“When it comes to each individual
person’s health not one individual
or group of people are better than
the other especially when it comes
to a contagious disease.”
I have to disagree. Not every BODY needs a medication, vaccination or treatment simply because they want it or can afford it…to practice medicine responsibly, the docs and nurses need to work to determine who needs what and more importantly why.
I kid you not, I had to talk a long time to explaine to the 89 yr old female resident that she didn’t need a medication for ED…even though the comercial on TV told her it would make her feel better. (that really happened!)
Enjoy your morning!
November 18th, 2009 at 9:04 ammj
Thanks Mindy, I assumed that arrangements had been made for facilities like yours, it seems to me that would be a bit more of a priority than the prosecutor’s office or the 22nd floor…
November 18th, 2009 at 10:32 amWhile I don’t have much use for these particular individuals on the 22nd floor, I think that it is important that our leaders in general be vaccinated during pandemic break outs.
If this pandemic was more deadly (say bird flu) we’ll need leaders capable of coordinating responses and keep the government working. Someone still needs to lead the fire and police departments or the National Guard and the army if you apply the logic up to higher levels of government.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:02 amThis whole H1N1 is a bunch of BS as far as I’m concerned. Another boy crying wolf.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:17 amI agree with the BS part. Government trying to scare us into letting Him take control, and take care of us. Because we are helpless.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:23 amLisa: It would be interesting to see how many on the 22nd floor made the CDC’s recommended list, i.e pregnant, young kids at home, chronic health condition or under 24. So, it’s kinda tough to tell who needed what.
SG: I agree, someone needs to be albe bodied when the pandemic hits, and there is the advantage of the herd immunization!
GCP: H1N1 was definately a strain that was recognized and had some impact on communities. I am not convinced it wasn’t just a different strain of this year’s seasonal flu. And don’t forget at least 36K die every year from seasonal and different flu strains every year.
Don’t forget to cover your coughs and wash your hands!
mj
November 18th, 2009 at 11:29 amThis whole H1N1 is a bunch of BS as far as I’m concerned. Another boy crying wolf.
Go talk to a pharmacist or go to the ER. There are ALOT of sick people. Luckily for us, while H1N1 is very contagious, it’s not very deadly. Heck, my wife took our youngest to the ER because our pediatrician was so busy, all you could get for hours of calls was “all lines are busy, please call back”.
I view this as good trial run for a more deadly pandemic. Maybe the drug companies and government can get the process better.
November 18th, 2009 at 11:38 amSensorG: If it’s not deadly, or anymore so than the regular flu, than what are we all worked up about?
Get some rest, drink some water, and call the doctor in the morning. Let’s not make mountains out of mole hill. All we succeed in doing is scaring the hell out of people for no reason and subjecting ourselves to mind-numbing media alerts endless stories about nothing.
November 18th, 2009 at 12:33 pmHope your parents and grandparents
read this Blog.
WTOL had a call the other evening in regards to the
H1N1 vaccine and Susan Ross Wells
kept stating that many of the phone
calls were coming from Senior Citizens
worried and wanted to know when the
vaccine would be available to them.
Did I say I am a Senior Citizens?
Maybe I am or Maybe I am not!
Did I ever say I want the H1N1 vaccine?? Maybe I do or Maybe
I do not!
Maybe I am worried about the neglect
of many senior citizens who have
a difficult time putting food on their
own table along with their medication or getting out for patient
procedures, etc.
So don’t worry about Senior Citizens
November 18th, 2009 at 12:36 pmI guess, they are going to probably
be gone well before any one else any way! Right??
OH, I did not mean WTOL Channel 11 I meant to
November 18th, 2009 at 12:39 pmsay Channel 13 with Susan Ross Wells!
Sue – seniors aren’t at a serious risk from H1N1, children and young adults are. Why are you so determined to take the limited vaccine and give it to a group people of who are the least at risk?
November 18th, 2009 at 12:43 pmSue…
“So don’t worry about Senior Citizens
I guess, they are going to probably
be gone well before any one else any way! Right??”
Where did that come from??
In regards to H1N1 and individuals over the age of 65, it is recommended (CDC) that they be a group of individuals targeted last to be vaccinated as they have acquired the most natural immunity. That’s all.
As a professional that has devoted her career to the serving the elderly, I certianly DO spend a considerable amout of time worrying about seniors, their health and well being.
Just because the CDC doesn’t recommend a vaccination for those already with some natural immunity is hardly cause to assume we don’t like the old people.
Goodness sakes…
mj
November 18th, 2009 at 12:53 pmglasscitypatriot – the media making something bigger than it really is, isn’t a new thing. As for this not being a big deal, it kind of is. 25-30% of the population is most likely going to get this before it’s through and it’s still pretty debilitating even if not deadly.
Right now we have NBA teams that are having a hard time fielding a full team because of the flu. When things like that happen, it does have a tendency to make the news.
November 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm“Most natural immunity”??
No one has a natural immunity” to
a contagious virus!!
Everyone keeps assuming everything
the CDC and numbers are correct and
will continue to stay that way for the
entire epidemic.
Everyone keeps assuming things I have
never said.
As I stated before: Have I ever
stated I am a senior Citizen or the
I want the H1N1 vaccine for myself??
My same response to both of those
questions are ” Maybe I am or maybe
I am not a Senior Citizen. And to the second question
my answer is “Maybe I do and maybe I
do not want the vaccine for myself”.
No one can tell me and many others
November 18th, 2009 at 1:24 pmthat statistics and numbers cannot
mislead.
I am not surprised. I remember a couple years back when there was a seasonal flu shot shortage and a lot of regular people didn’t get it because it just wasn’t available. It was available for a lot of government type people. They had covrage on the news of Congressmen and Senators getting their shots in DC. I don’t think they even had to wait in line, a doctor came to their office to give them the shot. So, this is nothing new at all.
November 18th, 2009 at 1:44 pmNo one has a natural immunity” to a contagious virus!!
Absolutely not true.
Many people are immune or not as acceptable to certain virus, toxins and bacteria. A lot of time spent researching them. Heck, I’m one of the 10% of the population that is immune to poison ivy. Not the same thing as H1N1, but just to prove, everyone is different.
As for natural immunity to H1N1, you can only a particular strain once in a life time and if one strain is close to other it may not affect you as well.
Most older people have been exposed to all sorts variance of the H1N1 virus, so they are not very likely to get this one.
It’s no different than chickenpox. You can only get it once and then “You are naturally immune.”
November 18th, 2009 at 2:05 pmNot every individual in a particular group has a natural immunity for a virus.
Everyone believes that can predict the
future for everyone with numbers.
Glad everyone is a psychic!
November 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pmSue –
November 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pmPlay the numbers. If say 80% of seniors are immune and 10% of children are and you have a limited supply of vaccine, who would you give the supply to?
I do not play numbers with life.
If or when you or one of your loved
November 18th, 2009 at 3:13 pmones is failed by the numbers given by health care professionals, governement, or
whatever everyone can come back and
give their opinion of playing with
life numbers.
Sue – “Play the numbers” is an expression. Science and recorded data is being used to help determine who should get the shots first. This is to help maximize the benefits for everyone.
Answer me this…
If you had 100 seniors and say about 80 of them were immune to H1N1 and you had 100 children and 10 of them were immune to H1N1 and you had 100 doses of vaccine. Who would you give the shots to?
November 18th, 2009 at 3:54 pmAs stated much earlier -
FIRST 100 THAT COMES NO MATTER WHAT
GROUP THE GOVERNMENT OR WHO CLASSIFIES
PEOPLE INTO GROUPS GETS IT!!
FIRST THAT COMES, FIRST SERVED!!
November 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pmAs stated much earlier -
FIRST 100 THAT COMES NO MATTER WHAT
GROUP THE GOVERNMENT OR WHO CLASSIFIES
PEOPLE INTO GROUPS GETS IT!!
It is a guess who is immune and who
isn’t immune on part of the governnment
and Medical Professionals
FIRST THAT COMES, FIRST SERVED!!
November 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pmA Guess? No it’s not. Seniors don’t get H1N1 at anywhere near the rate of children and young adults.
That is a fact. It’s not something made up by the government and medical professionals. If you believe that, why would you let the same government and medical professional give the vaccine.
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/swine-flu-and-the-elderly
http://www.help4seniors.org/newspage.asp?ref=1024
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-flu-q-and-a_sun_glantonnov01,0,7348417.story
Making this first come, first serve – taking seniors over children, healthy men over pregnant women is just between ignorant and evil.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:34 pmThere is NO FACT that Seniors or anyone
in any group will not get H1N1 or
anthing else!
SCIENCE AND NUMBERS ARE NOT 100%
ACCURATE FOR HUMAN BEINGS OR ANY
LIVING THING!!
THE END!!
November 18th, 2009 at 11:35 pmSensor, I don’t think Sue or anyone who has her position is ignorant or evil. This issue is actually being debated/reported on in many parts of the country. One article I found especially interesting from Dallas that asks:
I agree the answers to his question are worth reading…
From Salem:
And in California, the topic of should those who are not high risk get the vaccine has also been reported, link to that story:
November 19th, 2009 at 12:14 amSCIENCE AND NUMBERS ARE NOT 100%
ACCURATE FOR HUMAN BEINGS OR ANY
LIVING THING!!
Your gut feeling is?
Thank god my wife and kids weren’t on the Titanic with you deciding first come; first serve on for the life boats. Maybe I should get myself of the organ list. Sure the doctors say that I don’t need a liver or kidney, but science and medicine aren’t 100% accurate.
Sue, I just don’t understand why you think seniors need this shot so bad. If you are so distrustful of science, medical professionals and the government why in the world you let them vaccinate you at all?
Lisa – all your posts do is prove there are ignorant people (arguing where the insured or uninsured should get the shot – the shot is free) and selfish people (“If I can get it, I’m not gonna say no,” said Thompson, 35, of Hollywood Hills.)
November 19th, 2009 at 7:05 amSue,
Most of the seniors that I deal with daily are HAPPY not to be advised to take the H1N1 vaccine…they already think they are on too much medication as it is, and I agree.
Now…there are those that do THINK they NEED everything, hence the 89 female that wanted Viagra not knowing what it was exactly or how it worked, just that the commercial made her think it would make her life better. That is the type of ignorance I combat daily…welcome to my world!
mj
ps…I am guessing you don’t need the Viagra either. But do check the status of your pneumonia vaccine, I think they are still available in most doc’s offices.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:28 amLisa Renee,I do not know of any comment
made that Seniors want and should be
the first group to get the H1N1 vaccine or to exclude other groups of people!
FIRST COME FIRST SERVED means whoever
November 19th, 2009 at 11:38 amgets to the location where it is given
gets it NO MATTER WHAT AGE OR GROUP
they happen to be classified in by
government or medical so called
status!!!!!!
In all honesty, I would not get the H1N1 vaccine even if someone knocked on my door and offered it to me right then and there. There is too much hysteria surrounding the illness and the shot.
Plus, I read today that there is a completely different strain that is much worse out of Asia and the current H1N1 shot is completely useless against it.
November 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pmThe H1N1 shot isn’t any different than the seasonal shot other than they target different versions of the influenza virus.
Every year they make a new seasonal flu vaccine to combat the influenza dujour. The H1N1 shot is just another version of the same old flu shot millions of people get every year. No more or less dangerous.
November 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pmSensorG, if you have been reading
and listening to the news there
are many people of different ages
questioning and do not believe
the Government/Health Care releases, numbers
and recommendations given in the news!!
Is the Cancer Society ignorant too
November 20th, 2009 at 6:47 pmSensor G????
By the way everyone, it was released
in the news today a man in a very
nearby community a man died of the
H1N1.
What happened to your numbers? It
November 20th, 2009 at 7:16 pmwas not a child or pregnant woman!!
It’s not to say that no older person would get H1N1, but this guy had plenty of other issues.
http://m.toledoblade.com/quickPage.html?page=14488&content=26482432
You could easily point to this case –
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091106/NEWS16/911069973
A high risk persons who should have got the vaccine-
I really don’t want to play to “I told you so game”, it’s kind of depressing.
November 20th, 2009 at 11:45 pmIt is more depressing to know that
November 21st, 2009 at 12:03 amthere are too many people in this
world that believes everything they
read and that other people tell
them are the gospel answers and
nothing else but the truth!!
Hope that everyone listened to
and noted CBS broadcast on
H1N1 virus for during the Holidays
and read MSN for Europe.
Neither go along with certain
November 21st, 2009 at 12:28 amindividual’s fantasy numbers!!
It is more depressing to know that
there are too many people in this
world that believes everything they
read and that other people tell
them are the gospel answers and
nothing else but the truth!!
It’s depressing that there are people in this world that refuse to educated themselves, believe what they make up in their heads and won’t trust science and medical professionals.
It’s just sad that some people don’t know the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence.
November 21st, 2009 at 6:53 amThen, you had better tell all that to
many women who do not believe Or trust the latest
regarding Mammograms and the
Cancer Society and that they had
better educate themselves.
Some people need to educate themselves
that life of any kind has no
specific answers except for what humans dream up in their minds.
Glad you are God and have all the answers!!
November 21st, 2009 at 8:53 amThere will be NO FURTHER COMMENTS SUBMITTED WTIH
November 21st, 2009 at 10:16 amYOU sensor G ON ANY TOPIC WHATSOEVER from me and some others that
I do know because you create
an atmosphere of NO DISCUSSION since
all of your comments are biased,
discriminate, and/or lack of understanding others words and/or
opinions and you believe that you are the
only person in this world that has
any intelligence at all!!
Yo, SG,
Care to be in my life boat when the pandemic hits?
Cooler heads usually prevail!
mj
November 21st, 2009 at 11:03 amWow – I’ve sure got the knack for pissing people off lately.
Sue – I truly don’t understand. You trust corporations, the US government and modern medical science enough to trust them when they say they have a vaccine for H1N1, but think they are all making it up and wrong when they say those 65 or older aren’t at high risk for H1N1. Seems illogical.
Mindy – Let’s make a deal. Who ever gets to the life boat first saves a seat for the other.
November 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pmWhat is really troubling is how pregnant women and children are being pushed to the front of the line when the vaccine insert says the safety has not been determined. See my article below, complete with the full vaccine inserts…not spam…just real information.
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-14613-Kansas-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d5-KC-Area-vaccine-clinics-wrongly-target-pregnant-young
November 30th, 2009 at 3:29 pm