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	<title>Comments on: 6th Court of Appeals rules on Shanahan&#8217;s Trash &#8220;fee/tax&#8221; accelerated appeal</title>
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		<title>By: Karen Shanahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Shanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to also thank Maggie for all her help and support on the issue of the trash tax, it had been going on now for 2 very stressful years.  Had Maggie not offered her support 2 years ago, there would not be a case, she gave the referral which ultimately connected the lawsuit, the attorneys and me.  No one else would touch it.  It takes strength, knowledge, determination and believe to do this.  Each of you should give it a try sometime... and stay with it year after year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to also thank Maggie for all her help and support on the issue of the trash tax, it had been going on now for 2 very stressful years.  Had Maggie not offered her support 2 years ago, there would not be a case, she gave the referral which ultimately connected the lawsuit, the attorneys and me.  No one else would touch it.  It takes strength, knowledge, determination and believe to do this.  Each of you should give it a try sometime&#8230; and stay with it year after year.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Shanahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Shanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I questioned the “refuse fee”, the City was very careful to define it as a fee and not an assessment nor a tax.  If a tax, the city is required to put it on the ballot as a levy for additional taxes and if approved by the voters, they would be required to go back to the voters to increase the tax.

After several weeks of studying the “fee” and several more weeks of searching for an attorney who was willing to “fight city hall”, Kurt Wicklund agreed with my conclusion that it was not legal.  However, we had the dilemma of how to proceed.  Since the ordinance reference a “fee” the lawsuit was filed against the city ordinance regarding the “fee”.  The court has to decide if this is a fee or a tax since it is legal to pass an ordinance for a fee, but not for a tax.  How could we file a lawsuit against the city for a “tax” which does not appear in the Municipal Code?  It had to be filed as against the “fee” and have the courts decide, fee or tax.

R.C. § 2723.01 requires each person protesting an assessment must file a protest or a tax… it does not state the protest must be filed against a fee.  However, we believe filing a civil complaint in court meets the requirement regardless of what the City called it.

I’m distressed by the negative comments regarding Attorney Ciolek and the actions taken.  The is a complicated case which does not have clearly defined parameters or history to follow, nor any clear cut cases to research.  The attorneys working on this case have a huge battle being waged on our behalf and if any attorney out there has case law that could help the case, please offer it.  I reached out to a number of attorneys, legal agencies, activists groups, professors and law schools and all I received were “lots of luck” until Wicklund and Ciolek took up the challenge.  

Attorney Ciolek has taken on a number of cases against a city administration which rules by punitive, unreasonable action, cases that no one else would touch, and he has received more rulings in his favor than against him.  He is deliberate, thoughtful and thorough.  I challenge any attorney out in blogland to offer assistance in the case, which has profound impact on every community in Ohio. The power of this “fee” is huge as can readily be seen by a call to raise the “fee” to $16.00 per month.  When we elect our leaders we elect with the hope they will comply with the law.  I say they have not and it is costing us millions of dollars a year in illegally gained taxes.

Please visit the following blogs for more information:  http://trashtax.blogspot.com/ and 
http://shanahanselect.blogspot.com/.  As the courts denied class action, I suggest you file your protest today and let the attorneys know by emailing:  Trashtax@gmail.com to ensure there is a record you filed.  To date we have 75 who have let us know they filed.  That leaves 89,925 to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I questioned the “refuse fee”, the City was very careful to define it as a fee and not an assessment nor a tax.  If a tax, the city is required to put it on the ballot as a levy for additional taxes and if approved by the voters, they would be required to go back to the voters to increase the tax.</p>
<p>After several weeks of studying the “fee” and several more weeks of searching for an attorney who was willing to “fight city hall”, Kurt Wicklund agreed with my conclusion that it was not legal.  However, we had the dilemma of how to proceed.  Since the ordinance reference a “fee” the lawsuit was filed against the city ordinance regarding the “fee”.  The court has to decide if this is a fee or a tax since it is legal to pass an ordinance for a fee, but not for a tax.  How could we file a lawsuit against the city for a “tax” which does not appear in the Municipal Code?  It had to be filed as against the “fee” and have the courts decide, fee or tax.</p>
<p>R.C. § 2723.01 requires each person protesting an assessment must file a protest or a tax… it does not state the protest must be filed against a fee.  However, we believe filing a civil complaint in court meets the requirement regardless of what the City called it.</p>
<p>I’m distressed by the negative comments regarding Attorney Ciolek and the actions taken.  The is a complicated case which does not have clearly defined parameters or history to follow, nor any clear cut cases to research.  The attorneys working on this case have a huge battle being waged on our behalf and if any attorney out there has case law that could help the case, please offer it.  I reached out to a number of attorneys, legal agencies, activists groups, professors and law schools and all I received were “lots of luck” until Wicklund and Ciolek took up the challenge.  </p>
<p>Attorney Ciolek has taken on a number of cases against a city administration which rules by punitive, unreasonable action, cases that no one else would touch, and he has received more rulings in his favor than against him.  He is deliberate, thoughtful and thorough.  I challenge any attorney out in blogland to offer assistance in the case, which has profound impact on every community in Ohio. The power of this “fee” is huge as can readily be seen by a call to raise the “fee” to $16.00 per month.  When we elect our leaders we elect with the hope they will comply with the law.  I say they have not and it is costing us millions of dollars a year in illegally gained taxes.</p>
<p>Please visit the following blogs for more information:  <a href="http://trashtax.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://trashtax.blogspot.com/</a> and<br />
<a href="http://shanahanselect.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://shanahanselect.blogspot.com/</a>.  As the courts denied class action, I suggest you file your protest today and let the attorneys know by emailing:  <a href="mailto:Trashtax@gmail.com">Trashtax@gmail.com</a> to ensure there is a record you filed.  To date we have 75 who have let us know they filed.  That leaves 89,925 to go.</p>
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		<title>By: bobthedad</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobthedad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Sujay, now its on the internet so it must be true.  Just promise me I never voted for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sujay, now its on the internet so it must be true.  Just promise me I never voted for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sujay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sujay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LisaRenee - I&#039;m not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LisaRenee &#8211; I&#8217;m not.</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other attorney has represented Stainbrook on numerous occasions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other attorney has represented Stainbrook on numerous occasions.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sujay, if you are anonymous, no one has a clue as to if you are felon or not.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sujay, if you are anonymous, no one has a clue as to if you are felon or not.</p>
<p><img src="http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/wp-smiley-switcher/noktahhitam/icon_smile.gif" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: Sujay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sujay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa (#14) - Anonymous though most of us commenters are, at least we&#039;re not convicted felons.  Felons, especially convicted money launderers who in this post ell others how to properly  ..   uh  ... raise money, have no cred on the topic.  Anonymous posters are simply  ....  anonymous and don&#039;t lack cred simply for being anynomous.  Different issue.

Mikey (#16) - Correct.  North&#039;s conivction was overturned because the prosecutor went back on the deal, NOT BECAUSE OF ACTUAL INNOCENCE on North&#039;s part.  Why else enter the plea to begin with?

Chad (#15) - I think that Skow ruled in the Blade&#039;s favor in various lawsuits, like he did in the Jim Godbey case,  because the Blade was actually right - and because he stood strongly for the First Amendment rights of any entity, even the Blade&#039;s.  He also was a big supporter of open govenrnment and a broad reading of Ohio&#039;s open meetings and public records laws.  And the Blade, like them or not, stands head and shoulders above other Ohio newspapers on those issues.  It&#039;s a shame that his replacement, Keila Cosme, probably couldn&#039;t name the five rights guaranteed under the First  Amendment (speech, religion, assembly, press, right to petition government), but that&#039;s for a different post ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa (#14) &#8211; Anonymous though most of us commenters are, at least we&#8217;re not convicted felons.  Felons, especially convicted money launderers who in this post ell others how to properly  ..   uh  &#8230; raise money, have no cred on the topic.  Anonymous posters are simply  &#8230;.  anonymous and don&#8217;t lack cred simply for being anynomous.  Different issue.</p>
<p>Mikey (#16) &#8211; Correct.  North&#8217;s conivction was overturned because the prosecutor went back on the deal, NOT BECAUSE OF ACTUAL INNOCENCE on North&#8217;s part.  Why else enter the plea to begin with?</p>
<p>Chad (#15) &#8211; I think that Skow ruled in the Blade&#8217;s favor in various lawsuits, like he did in the Jim Godbey case,  because the Blade was actually right &#8211; and because he stood strongly for the First Amendment rights of any entity, even the Blade&#8217;s.  He also was a big supporter of open govenrnment and a broad reading of Ohio&#8217;s open meetings and public records laws.  And the Blade, like them or not, stands head and shoulders above other Ohio newspapers on those issues.  It&#8217;s a shame that his replacement, Keila Cosme, probably couldn&#8217;t name the five rights guaranteed under the First  Amendment (speech, religion, assembly, press, right to petition government), but that&#8217;s for a different post &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeyA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeyA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sujay, North&#039;s conviction being overturned was not a technicality.  His rights were violated.  He had a plea deal in exchange for his testimony and the prosecutor chose to ignore it.  

Just keeping the points honest here.  Not trying to get off topic Lisa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sujay, North&#8217;s conviction being overturned was not a technicality.  His rights were violated.  He had a plea deal in exchange for his testimony and the prosecutor chose to ignore it.  </p>
<p>Just keeping the points honest here.  Not trying to get off topic Lisa.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sujay I was too young to remember any of that. I just remember he always got cases that were filed against the blade and always seemed to rule in their favor. However, it does not mean those lawsuits had any merit. 

I am glad Skow stood up for Judge Lanzinger. Their obsession with that case was ridiculous! It was a tough case, and let&#039;s face it how many times does a judge reject a plea deal? Less then 1%?

I never knew they thought Skow should run for mayor!!! Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sujay I was too young to remember any of that. I just remember he always got cases that were filed against the blade and always seemed to rule in their favor. However, it does not mean those lawsuits had any merit. </p>
<p>I am glad Skow stood up for Judge Lanzinger. Their obsession with that case was ridiculous! It was a tough case, and let&#8217;s face it how many times does a judge reject a plea deal? Less then 1%?</p>
<p>I never knew they thought Skow should run for mayor!!! Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same could be said for those who decide to be anonymous, since they are not putting themselves up to the same public scrutiny, the motivation for their commentary is also at times suspect.  Those who do dare to use their own names unfortunately at times are the target, which in this case?  Maggie&#039;s past has nothing to do with the issue nor her ability to comment on this particular lawsuit. 

Hopefully we can now return to the actual topic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same could be said for those who decide to be anonymous, since they are not putting themselves up to the same public scrutiny, the motivation for their commentary is also at times suspect.  Those who do dare to use their own names unfortunately at times are the target, which in this case?  Maggie&#8217;s past has nothing to do with the issue nor her ability to comment on this particular lawsuit. </p>
<p>Hopefully we can now return to the actual topic&#8230;</p>
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