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	<title>Comments on: Szollosi says State Audit is preferable to tax hike</title>
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		<title>By: Daveschulz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daveschulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we did.  Edgewater and Ottawa River would become Washington Local perhaps.  Whitmer would be the high school I assume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we did.  Edgewater and Ottawa River would become Washington Local perhaps.  Whitmer would be the high school I assume.</p>
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		<title>By: glasscitypatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>glasscitypatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, would they need a public school or could it all be charter/private? However, a small public school (k-8, 9-12) may not be a huge burden if managed properly (big &quot;if&quot; I know). PP did have it&#039;s own schools at one time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, would they need a public school or could it all be charter/private? However, a small public school (k-8, 9-12) may not be a huge burden if managed properly (big &#8220;if&#8221; I know). PP did have it&#8217;s own schools at one time.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d also have to address the educational aspect, since the Point would also have to create it&#039;s own schools and find a way to fund them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d also have to address the educational aspect, since the Point would also have to create it&#8217;s own schools and find a way to fund them.</p>
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		<title>By: glasscitypatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>glasscitypatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I think you&#039;re right. Most Point Placers would rather be independent. 

Certainly the community would have to pay for infrastructure built by Toledo if it left. 

It would be interesting if someone could run the numbers to see how much the Point pays in taxes versus how much it receives in benefits. If remaining in Toledo is a net loss to the Point Place community than leaving could resonate with voters or even be economically viable. 

Depending on how the new Point Place was organized, fire protection could be voluntary, police could be shared with Shoreland, and other items contracted out. 

Imagine a Point with its own schools, a competitive tax structure free from the chains of Toledo city-management, or even set-up as a &quot;free enterprise zone.&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I think you&#8217;re right. Most Point Placers would rather be independent. </p>
<p>Certainly the community would have to pay for infrastructure built by Toledo if it left. </p>
<p>It would be interesting if someone could run the numbers to see how much the Point pays in taxes versus how much it receives in benefits. If remaining in Toledo is a net loss to the Point Place community than leaving could resonate with voters or even be economically viable. </p>
<p>Depending on how the new Point Place was organized, fire protection could be voluntary, police could be shared with Shoreland, and other items contracted out. </p>
<p>Imagine a Point with its own schools, a competitive tax structure free from the chains of Toledo city-management, or even set-up as a &#8220;free enterprise zone.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
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		<dc:creator>kateb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see every government budget in Toledo audited.

Frank - can you check - all these months after it was reported and see how much Council is paying for copy/printer paper?

It was reported that Council was paying nearly 3 times as much for it as anyone going into an office supply shop would pay.

Would an audit find things of this nature? It is true if you save enough nickels you eventually have dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see every government budget in Toledo audited.</p>
<p>Frank &#8211; can you check &#8211; all these months after it was reported and see how much Council is paying for copy/printer paper?</p>
<p>It was reported that Council was paying nearly 3 times as much for it as anyone going into an office supply shop would pay.</p>
<p>Would an audit find things of this nature? It is true if you save enough nickels you eventually have dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Audit away.  Bring it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audit away.  Bring it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schulz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glasscity, there are provisions in the law for detaching and joining another township or forming a new one.  The easy part would be the vote on it but with that comes costs, such as the new or expanded entity would take on the proportionate amount of debt.  Point Place would have alot of debt due to the amount of infrastructure in the city.  You have to figure out about police and fire protection, the fire station, water facilities, dikes, etc.  No doubt, if it made sense the Point Placers would vote overwhelmingly for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glasscity, there are provisions in the law for detaching and joining another township or forming a new one.  The easy part would be the vote on it but with that comes costs, such as the new or expanded entity would take on the proportionate amount of debt.  Point Place would have alot of debt due to the amount of infrastructure in the city.  You have to figure out about police and fire protection, the fire station, water facilities, dikes, etc.  No doubt, if it made sense the Point Placers would vote overwhelmingly for it.</p>
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		<title>By: glasscitypatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>glasscitypatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, is there a possibility of Toledo letting go of some of the land or neighborhoods it has annexed over the years? 

As an example, Point Place becoming it&#039;s own township again? 

Is there any basis in Ohio law for areas once annexed by a larger city to break-off and become independent again? 

Often when companies have budget problems they sell-off assets or other businesses acquired during better times; do you think the same could work for municipalities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, is there a possibility of Toledo letting go of some of the land or neighborhoods it has annexed over the years? </p>
<p>As an example, Point Place becoming it&#8217;s own township again? </p>
<p>Is there any basis in Ohio law for areas once annexed by a larger city to break-off and become independent again? </p>
<p>Often when companies have budget problems they sell-off assets or other businesses acquired during better times; do you think the same could work for municipalities?</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Quigley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank....agree that audit is better than tax hike.  A hike in taxes now all but assures more exodus of population.  Too many more leave and there will be nothing to do but leave with them.  

What has always sickened me most was the &quot;trading&quot; done and the lack of strength shown by the people duly charged with taking care of what is in the best interests of the city.  I have long said and will continue to harp that while we would all love to see services and so on expand, times like we are in require the shrinking of said services at least in the short term.  

While I fully understand the impact of layoffs, firings and the downsizing of gov,  what has to be done must be done.  It would be in everyone&#039;s best interests not to make deals and promises they can&#039;t carry...  in other words..don&#039;t write checks yer ass can&#039;t cash.  

Police, Fire, Utilities, Roads...those are the only priorities and the rest is just gonna have to be dropped until the local economy recovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank&#8230;.agree that audit is better than tax hike.  A hike in taxes now all but assures more exodus of population.  Too many more leave and there will be nothing to do but leave with them.  </p>
<p>What has always sickened me most was the &#8220;trading&#8221; done and the lack of strength shown by the people duly charged with taking care of what is in the best interests of the city.  I have long said and will continue to harp that while we would all love to see services and so on expand, times like we are in require the shrinking of said services at least in the short term.  </p>
<p>While I fully understand the impact of layoffs, firings and the downsizing of gov,  what has to be done must be done.  It would be in everyone&#8217;s best interests not to make deals and promises they can&#8217;t carry&#8230;  in other words..don&#8217;t write checks yer ass can&#8217;t cash.  </p>
<p>Police, Fire, Utilities, Roads&#8230;those are the only priorities and the rest is just gonna have to be dropped until the local economy recovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Daveschulz</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/08/szollosi-says-state-audit-is-preferable-to-tax-hike/#comment-339917</link>
		<dc:creator>Daveschulz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, not a black and white issue.  It could be more of a symptom not a problem.  No perfect system...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, not a black and white issue.  It could be more of a symptom not a problem.  No perfect system&#8230;</p>
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