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		<title>By: Barga</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/the-truth-apologies-reparations-and-never-again/#comment-336422</link>
		<dc:creator>Barga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have been saying for ages, I do not understand why we would want to issue reperations. most of us never had ancestors owning slaves, and most blacks are not directly affected by this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have been saying for ages, I do not understand why we would want to issue reperations. most of us never had ancestors owning slaves, and most blacks are not directly affected by this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Not Again</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/the-truth-apologies-reparations-and-never-again/#comment-335463</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;LisaRenee&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
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Seriously though, there were attempts in the 1800’s for blacks to return to Africa, that’s how the American colony of Liberia was formed. 
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Abraham Lincoln was behind the shipments to Liberia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>LisaRenee</b> wrote:</p>
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Seriously though, there were attempts in the 1800’s for blacks to return to Africa, that’s how the American colony of Liberia was formed.
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<p>Abraham Lincoln was behind the shipments to Liberia.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/the-truth-apologies-reparations-and-never-again/#comment-335451</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be in trouble Tina, part of my father&#039;s side of the family has been here even before we were a nation, but I&#039;d have to go back to Poland, France, England, Germany, Ireland and Canada.

:-)

Seriously though, there were attempts in the 1800&#039;s for blacks to return to Africa, that&#039;s how the American colony of Liberia was formed. One of the first presidents of Liberia came from Ohio.  Some of those who went did not go voluntarily though, they were freed as slaves after the death of their owner with the specific intention of them being sent back to Africa.  Some of the problems Liberia had were directly related to conflict between the former slaves from America and those that were native born to the area.  In many ways it reminds me of what happened with Palestine, where other governments decided to give land to others with little consideration for those who were there before.  We also did this with the Native American Indians.  

Liberia continued to have problems related to the slavery trade even after former slaves were in control of the government.  This continued into the 1960&#039;s where people were forced into labor by the government and differed very little from slavery.  

Historically one of my main problems with the theory of reparations is that it doesn&#039;t address the whole issue of slavery.  It would punish those who purchased the slaves but does not take into consideration those responsible for profiting from the sale of slaves, which did involve blacks as well as Europeans.  Had the slave trade industry not existed, there would have been no slaves bought.  Prior to that indentured servants were used more often, which some could debate did not vary much from slavery beyond there existing a certain point where you knew you would be free.  Yet, the history of our world when it comes to capturing, buying and selling of people existed before then, Vikings and Rome and probably even before then back to the days of the cave men when weaker tribes were conqured and captured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be in trouble Tina, part of my father&#8217;s side of the family has been here even before we were a nation, but I&#8217;d have to go back to Poland, France, England, Germany, Ireland and Canada.</p>
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<p>Seriously though, there were attempts in the 1800&#8217;s for blacks to return to Africa, that&#8217;s how the American colony of Liberia was formed. One of the first presidents of Liberia came from Ohio.  Some of those who went did not go voluntarily though, they were freed as slaves after the death of their owner with the specific intention of them being sent back to Africa.  Some of the problems Liberia had were directly related to conflict between the former slaves from America and those that were native born to the area.  In many ways it reminds me of what happened with Palestine, where other governments decided to give land to others with little consideration for those who were there before.  We also did this with the Native American Indians.  </p>
<p>Liberia continued to have problems related to the slavery trade even after former slaves were in control of the government.  This continued into the 1960&#8217;s where people were forced into labor by the government and differed very little from slavery.  </p>
<p>Historically one of my main problems with the theory of reparations is that it doesn&#8217;t address the whole issue of slavery.  It would punish those who purchased the slaves but does not take into consideration those responsible for profiting from the sale of slaves, which did involve blacks as well as Europeans.  Had the slave trade industry not existed, there would have been no slaves bought.  Prior to that indentured servants were used more often, which some could debate did not vary much from slavery beyond there existing a certain point where you knew you would be free.  Yet, the history of our world when it comes to capturing, buying and selling of people existed before then, Vikings and Rome and probably even before then back to the days of the cave men when weaker tribes were conqured and captured.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>meghan Says: 
Part of me thinks that if you are not happy in America and feel that we owe you something there is nobody forcing you to stay here. I never saw the mass exodus of blacks going to their homeland, I have never heard any blacks pleading for passage back to Africa. 
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Isn&#039;t going back to ones homeland the same as going back to your place of birh?  I was not born in Africa nor my father or his father.  Why would I choose to go back somewhere that I did not come from.  It kills me when non blacks say if you don&#039;t like it go back to Africa.  On the other side of my family tree my grandfather was German.  If I don&#039;t like America am I suppose to &quot;go back to Germany&quot;.  I am only having fun with you Meghan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meghan Says:<br />
Part of me thinks that if you are not happy in America and feel that we owe you something there is nobody forcing you to stay here. I never saw the mass exodus of blacks going to their homeland, I have never heard any blacks pleading for passage back to Africa.<br />
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Isn&#8217;t going back to ones homeland the same as going back to your place of birh?  I was not born in Africa nor my father or his father.  Why would I choose to go back somewhere that I did not come from.  It kills me when non blacks say if you don&#8217;t like it go back to Africa.  On the other side of my family tree my grandfather was German.  If I don&#8217;t like America am I suppose to &#8220;go back to Germany&#8221;.  I am only having fun with you Meghan.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame this all on the Romans....

Were not the sellers of slaves from Africa as equally guilty as the buyers?

I would maintain that most racists of today in this country are blacks...against whites.  They have learned this from their ancestors.  They also learned to rely on government for their needs.  Government has promised but only delivered in part...in fact, the delivery has been a sham.  Promise of government continues...results ramain nothing more than promises.

Just this week, Al Gore raved about the civil rights legislation of the &#039;60&#039;s.  Yet, his father voted against all of it.  After all, he was a southern democrat...as was Al Jr.  In the election of 2000, he lost his own state.  HE LOST HIS OWN STATE.  Hanging chads would have meant nothing if he could only have convinced his own people of what was best for them and that only he could deliver.  They didn&#039;t buy it.

Today&#039;s society is in decline soley because of the breakdown of the family as a unit.  End of story.

Until death do us part...that&#039;s the way it was...but not now.  One mother...multiple fathers and multiple babies.  No responsibilty for anyone.  Just hold your hand out to the government.  They will continue to provide as in the past..nothing.

Bring back the families and things will improve.  Bring back marriage..in church.  Bring back family, fidelity, truth, honesty, faith, honor and respect.  Respect for all.

Who do you respect?

To whom are you faithful?

What do you believe?

Reparations?  Faggetaboutit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame this all on the Romans&#8230;.</p>
<p>Were not the sellers of slaves from Africa as equally guilty as the buyers?</p>
<p>I would maintain that most racists of today in this country are blacks&#8230;against whites.  They have learned this from their ancestors.  They also learned to rely on government for their needs.  Government has promised but only delivered in part&#8230;in fact, the delivery has been a sham.  Promise of government continues&#8230;results ramain nothing more than promises.</p>
<p>Just this week, Al Gore raved about the civil rights legislation of the &#8217;60&#8217;s.  Yet, his father voted against all of it.  After all, he was a southern democrat&#8230;as was Al Jr.  In the election of 2000, he lost his own state.  HE LOST HIS OWN STATE.  Hanging chads would have meant nothing if he could only have convinced his own people of what was best for them and that only he could deliver.  They didn&#8217;t buy it.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s society is in decline soley because of the breakdown of the family as a unit.  End of story.</p>
<p>Until death do us part&#8230;that&#8217;s the way it was&#8230;but not now.  One mother&#8230;multiple fathers and multiple babies.  No responsibilty for anyone.  Just hold your hand out to the government.  They will continue to provide as in the past..nothing.</p>
<p>Bring back the families and things will improve.  Bring back marriage..in church.  Bring back family, fidelity, truth, honesty, faith, honor and respect.  Respect for all.</p>
<p>Who do you respect?</p>
<p>To whom are you faithful?</p>
<p>What do you believe?</p>
<p>Reparations?  Faggetaboutit.</p>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If reparations are appropriate the folks that owe the money are dead and buried. The apology was surely long overdue. But if the people who owe the money and the people who are entitled to the money are all dead - that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If reparations are appropriate the folks that owe the money are dead and buried. The apology was surely long overdue. But if the people who owe the money and the people who are entitled to the money are all dead &#8211; that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: meghan</title>
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		<dc:creator>meghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of me thinks that if you are not happy in America and feel that we owe you something there is nobody forcing you to stay here. I never saw the mass exodus of blacks going to their homeland, I have never heard any blacks pleading for passage back to Africa. Most likely this is because modern day blacks have many opportunities, sadly many do not take advantage of them. I try and understand, I know racism exists, I have not lived it so cannot say &quot;I know what its like&quot; but I also believe racism goes both ways. 
Slavery is a horrible, dark time in American history, one that will never be forgotten or repeated. Because of those ancestors who suffered mightily under slavery many people who would live in some pretty horrifying conditions now have the chance to live the American Dream in the greatest country on earth.
Use the opportunity wisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of me thinks that if you are not happy in America and feel that we owe you something there is nobody forcing you to stay here. I never saw the mass exodus of blacks going to their homeland, I have never heard any blacks pleading for passage back to Africa. Most likely this is because modern day blacks have many opportunities, sadly many do not take advantage of them. I try and understand, I know racism exists, I have not lived it so cannot say &#8220;I know what its like&#8221; but I also believe racism goes both ways.<br />
Slavery is a horrible, dark time in American history, one that will never be forgotten or repeated. Because of those ancestors who suffered mightily under slavery many people who would live in some pretty horrifying conditions now have the chance to live the American Dream in the greatest country on earth.<br />
Use the opportunity wisely.</p>
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		<title>By: jayott</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reparations have already been paid.  Nearly 700,000 casualties in the Civil War, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and the EEOC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reparations have already been paid.  Nearly 700,000 casualties in the Civil War, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and the EEOC.</p>
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		<title>By: Hooda Thunkit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hooda Thunkit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

As far as reparations go, those who profited from the practice of owning and keeping slaves maybe should pay reparations, but to whom?

Last time I checked all who claimed to be slaves were long dead. 

And, paying reparations to the ancestors of former slaves makes everything all right exactly how?

Slavery was real and it indeed did happen, but nothing can be done now to correct for the injustices then.

To me, the issue of reparations is a money grab pure and simple and nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>As far as reparations go, those who profited from the practice of owning and keeping slaves maybe should pay reparations, but to whom?</p>
<p>Last time I checked all who claimed to be slaves were long dead. </p>
<p>And, paying reparations to the ancestors of former slaves makes everything all right exactly how?</p>
<p>Slavery was real and it indeed did happen, but nothing can be done now to correct for the injustices then.</p>
<p>To me, the issue of reparations is a money grab pure and simple and nothing more.</p>
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