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	<title>Comments on: Demand at Public Libraries up &#8211; Governor&#8217;s proposal deemed &#8220;devastating&#8221; &#8211; so are some of the other cuts</title>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
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		<dc:creator>kateb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, glad to hear it! I see how you feel that way - but I feel it does take a village to raise a child. Correctly, that is.

As a parent, I can take care of some medical issues at home but for real medical needs it&#039;s my duty to seek out a professional. A doctor.

And I can teach my children quite a good deal, educationally - but I&#039;m not a professional so I need teachers to make sure that they have the best.

If we had to be an expert in all aspects of life pertinent to raising children - no one could have any.

I see that as saying that if you want to have a car you need to be a mechanic. No one is an expert in all areas.

Truly resourceful and determined people seek out experts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, glad to hear it! I see how you feel that way &#8211; but I feel it does take a village to raise a child. Correctly, that is.</p>
<p>As a parent, I can take care of some medical issues at home but for real medical needs it&#8217;s my duty to seek out a professional. A doctor.</p>
<p>And I can teach my children quite a good deal, educationally &#8211; but I&#8217;m not a professional so I need teachers to make sure that they have the best.</p>
<p>If we had to be an expert in all aspects of life pertinent to raising children &#8211; no one could have any.</p>
<p>I see that as saying that if you want to have a car you need to be a mechanic. No one is an expert in all areas.</p>
<p>Truly resourceful and determined people seek out experts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No kateb I did not mean to direct that at you personally, although I agree that you can read it that way. I just used a quote from your post to make a general point that educating children is the responsibility of parents not the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kateb I did not mean to direct that at you personally, although I agree that you can read it that way. I just used a quote from your post to make a general point that educating children is the responsibility of parents not the government.</p>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335487</link>
		<dc:creator>kateb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was that directed at me? We work with all the children at home and make use of whatever professional resources are available to educate the children. We actually see the education and preparation of our children for adult life as number one priority in my family.

I had children and nurtured and cared well for them. They all graduated and are productive members of society.

I have no idea where that came from but it was absolutely not true in my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that directed at me? We work with all the children at home and make use of whatever professional resources are available to educate the children. We actually see the education and preparation of our children for adult life as number one priority in my family.</p>
<p>I had children and nurtured and cared well for them. They all graduated and are productive members of society.</p>
<p>I have no idea where that came from but it was absolutely not true in my family.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335472</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;kateb&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Headstart and Preschools are for preparation for elementary school.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
My daughters received extensive preparation for elementary school from their parents. Spend sometime actually interacting with your children and maybe reading to them, instead of sitting them in front of the TV or video games.

Oh I know, you are busy working. Why did you want children if not to nurture and care for them? Why would you hand over the responsibility of educating them to strangers-or worse-the government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>kateb</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Headstart and Preschools are for preparation for elementary school.</p></blockquote>
<p>My daughters received extensive preparation for elementary school from their parents. Spend sometime actually interacting with your children and maybe reading to them, instead of sitting them in front of the TV or video games.</p>
<p>Oh I know, you are busy working. Why did you want children if not to nurture and care for them? Why would you hand over the responsibility of educating them to strangers-or worse-the government?</p>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335363</link>
		<dc:creator>kateb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Jenny if he does cut funding for libraries he won&#039;t ever get elected (or re-elected) to office again in Ohio.

But maybe he&#039;s planning on a D.C. run of some kind. 

He&#039;s almost burnt all of his bridges in Ohio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jenny if he does cut funding for libraries he won&#8217;t ever get elected (or re-elected) to office again in Ohio.</p>
<p>But maybe he&#8217;s planning on a D.C. run of some kind. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s almost burnt all of his bridges in Ohio.</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335356</link>
		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, those evil Republicans are at it again. Slashing funding for libraries,mental heath care, medicaid, etc. Refusing to raise taxes on the rich!

Wait a minute, the Governor is a Democrat!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, those evil Republicans are at it again. Slashing funding for libraries,mental heath care, medicaid, etc. Refusing to raise taxes on the rich!</p>
<p>Wait a minute, the Governor is a Democrat!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be amiss if I didn&#039;t mention the continued need for that cash for the seniors in my care.

When my facility&#039;s budget is slashed, and I have no money to pay my staff, buy food and meds, where exactly should I drop off Grandma??  Perhaps the Govevnor&#039;s mansion??

I love my library, however, like Lisa said, if I am given a choice, my residents will continue to receive the care they were promised and deserve.

Good evening, all.

mj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be amiss if I didn&#8217;t mention the continued need for that cash for the seniors in my care.</p>
<p>When my facility&#8217;s budget is slashed, and I have no money to pay my staff, buy food and meds, where exactly should I drop off Grandma??  Perhaps the Govevnor&#8217;s mansion??</p>
<p>I love my library, however, like Lisa said, if I am given a choice, my residents will continue to receive the care they were promised and deserve.</p>
<p>Good evening, all.</p>
<p>mj</p>
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		<title>By: The A-Hole Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335183</link>
		<dc:creator>The A-Hole Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear.

I am not arguing that the libraries are not a positive aspect of civil life.  I am not arguing that Head Start and preschool do not provide a step up or improve the success of children. 

I am arguing that the library system has waste, and offers services that are not necessary; and that Head Start and preschool are not REQUIRED for a child&#039;s or national educational success.

TAHL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear.</p>
<p>I am not arguing that the libraries are not a positive aspect of civil life.  I am not arguing that Head Start and preschool do not provide a step up or improve the success of children. </p>
<p>I am arguing that the library system has waste, and offers services that are not necessary; and that Head Start and preschool are not REQUIRED for a child&#8217;s or national educational success.</p>
<p>TAHL</p>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335182</link>
		<dc:creator>kateb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the clients in the libraries that I use (I, being middle class) are also middle class. That would be in South Toledo, downtown and in several other cities.

Headstart and Preschools are for preparation for elementary school. My sister is a teacher with experience in Headstart, my family used several very good Preschools and my grandsons all went through Headstart. In no way do they resemble daycare centers.

And there are plenty of statistical studies done that clearly indicate that these programs work and they work well. I&#039;d be interested to see what is behind the concept that these are public day cares. It wouldn&#039;t be tolerated and it also wouldn&#039;t be possible since most of these programs are for a very short period of time. My most recent experience (2 grandsons just finished for the summer) is that they are only in the facility for 2 to 2 1/2 hours. Hardly a day care resource.

Libraries are and have been an intrinsic part of the community education process. Both private and public study. There is also a direct correlation to economic development as it pertains to a thriving library system. There&#039;s an interesting explanation in this paper: http://www.alliancelibrarysystem.com/Rural/documents/bestpractices.pdf

People use and need the libraries and early childhood development programs. I just want to make sure that there isn&#039;t unfounded negative information planted about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the clients in the libraries that I use (I, being middle class) are also middle class. That would be in South Toledo, downtown and in several other cities.</p>
<p>Headstart and Preschools are for preparation for elementary school. My sister is a teacher with experience in Headstart, my family used several very good Preschools and my grandsons all went through Headstart. In no way do they resemble daycare centers.</p>
<p>And there are plenty of statistical studies done that clearly indicate that these programs work and they work well. I&#8217;d be interested to see what is behind the concept that these are public day cares. It wouldn&#8217;t be tolerated and it also wouldn&#8217;t be possible since most of these programs are for a very short period of time. My most recent experience (2 grandsons just finished for the summer) is that they are only in the facility for 2 to 2 1/2 hours. Hardly a day care resource.</p>
<p>Libraries are and have been an intrinsic part of the community education process. Both private and public study. There is also a direct correlation to economic development as it pertains to a thriving library system. There&#8217;s an interesting explanation in this paper: <a href="http://www.alliancelibrarysystem.com/Rural/documents/bestpractices.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.alliancelibrarysystem.com/Rural/documents/bestpractices.pdf</a></p>
<p>People use and need the libraries and early childhood development programs. I just want to make sure that there isn&#8217;t unfounded negative information planted about them.</p>
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		<title>By: The A-Hole Lawyer</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2009/06/demand-at-public-libraries-up-governors-proposal-deemed-devastating/#comment-335181</link>
		<dc:creator>The A-Hole Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not against public service organizations keeping up with the times, but the term &quot;library&quot; has taken on new meaning in the new millennium.  

Free movies and music -- not what taxes, or the library, are for.

Free Internet to surf, play games and who knows what else -- not what taxes, or the library, are for.

A warm spot for the homeless to stay during business hours - not what taxes, or the library, are for. (However, outside of security and water costs, not too expensive to let those citizens inside).

Yes its tough times and tough decisions must be made.   Yes the less fortunate feel the pinch also; but the reality is something has too give.  

As for preschool being fundamental to our children&#039;s success?  Nope.  Only because we have been fortunate enough to have public daycare instituted at the preschool and head-start, level, have we been convinced its &quot;necessary.&quot;

Without preschool, kids will still learn their ABC&#039;s and 123&#039;s, probably better; since they won&#039;t have cultural sensitivity, sexual harassment, and diversity training between cookie time and nap time.   

TAHL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not against public service organizations keeping up with the times, but the term &#8220;library&#8221; has taken on new meaning in the new millennium.  </p>
<p>Free movies and music &#8212; not what taxes, or the library, are for.</p>
<p>Free Internet to surf, play games and who knows what else &#8212; not what taxes, or the library, are for.</p>
<p>A warm spot for the homeless to stay during business hours &#8211; not what taxes, or the library, are for. (However, outside of security and water costs, not too expensive to let those citizens inside).</p>
<p>Yes its tough times and tough decisions must be made.   Yes the less fortunate feel the pinch also; but the reality is something has too give.  </p>
<p>As for preschool being fundamental to our children&#8217;s success?  Nope.  Only because we have been fortunate enough to have public daycare instituted at the preschool and head-start, level, have we been convinced its &#8220;necessary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Without preschool, kids will still learn their ABC&#8217;s and 123&#8217;s, probably better; since they won&#8217;t have cultural sensitivity, sexual harassment, and diversity training between cookie time and nap time.   </p>
<p>TAHL</p>
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