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		<title>By: Ben Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

If they are going to be spending all this money, I too would like to see much more of it help people now.  Not in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>If they are going to be spending all this money, I too would like to see much more of it help people now.  Not in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Pink Slip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Slip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax cuts without a plan for cutting spending are irresponsible at best and they increase deficits.  Reagan was forced to RAISE taxes after his cuts caused the deficit to balloon.  Obviously the Republicans didn&#039;t have any plans to cut spending.  And combined with the tax cuts that Voinovich voted for, you had the lowest revenues as a pct of the GDP since 1959 (see link above)--and this was after the 2003 cuts.  There was a slight rebound, but overall the results were anemic.  

This is the problem with the current group of Republicans.  They continually run on the platform of cutting taxes.  Yet they have NO plans to cut spending.  The only way they can balance the budget is to cut things like Medicare payments, SS benefits, education spending, etc (or raise taxes).  Do you ever think they&#039;ll run on THAT platform?  Of course not, because Americans don&#039;t want those type of cuts.  So either the Repubs are cowards, or their just dishonest.  

So it is hypocritical for Voinovich to discuss fiscal responsibility when he is partially to blame for the current deficit--by not combining tax cuts with spending cuts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax cuts without a plan for cutting spending are irresponsible at best and they increase deficits.  Reagan was forced to RAISE taxes after his cuts caused the deficit to balloon.  Obviously the Republicans didn&#8217;t have any plans to cut spending.  And combined with the tax cuts that Voinovich voted for, you had the lowest revenues as a pct of the GDP since 1959 (see link above)&#8211;and this was after the 2003 cuts.  There was a slight rebound, but overall the results were anemic.  </p>
<p>This is the problem with the current group of Republicans.  They continually run on the platform of cutting taxes.  Yet they have NO plans to cut spending.  The only way they can balance the budget is to cut things like Medicare payments, SS benefits, education spending, etc (or raise taxes).  Do you ever think they&#8217;ll run on THAT platform?  Of course not, because Americans don&#8217;t want those type of cuts.  So either the Repubs are cowards, or their just dishonest.  </p>
<p>So it is hypocritical for Voinovich to discuss fiscal responsibility when he is partially to blame for the current deficit&#8211;by not combining tax cuts with spending cuts</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 13:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://fmpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/09/taxes-are-high-enough-too-high-we-have.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tax cuts don&#039;t cause deficits, too much spending does&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  

2001-2008, federal spending increased by 57 percent.  Four years that followed the 2003 tax cuts, federal revenue rose by $785 billion.  Of course, we had deficits following September 11 (unavoidable), but then we went on a spending spree.  Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton, Bush tax cuts all yielded higher federal revenues.  Look it up.

And aside from the facts - from a philosophical perspective, believing that tax cuts cause deficits requires belief that the money you earn is not yours, it is Washington&#039;s.  Flip it around, if you&#039;re in debt, is it because of taxes, or because you have spent too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://fmpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/09/taxes-are-high-enough-too-high-we-have.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Tax cuts don&#8217;t cause deficits, too much spending does</b></a>.  </p>
<p>2001-2008, federal spending increased by 57 percent.  Four years that followed the 2003 tax cuts, federal revenue rose by $785 billion.  Of course, we had deficits following September 11 (unavoidable), but then we went on a spending spree.  Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton, Bush tax cuts all yielded higher federal revenues.  Look it up.</p>
<p>And aside from the facts &#8211; from a philosophical perspective, believing that tax cuts cause deficits requires belief that the money you earn is not yours, it is Washington&#8217;s.  Flip it around, if you&#8217;re in debt, is it because of taxes, or because you have spent too much?</p>
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		<title>By: Pink Slip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Slip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 04:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig hit the nail on the head.  Interesting indeed is Senator Voinovich&#039;s stance considering he voted for two rounds of the Bush tax cuts, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbpp.org/9-27-06tax.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;which lead us to the current deficit.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig hit the nail on the head.  Interesting indeed is Senator Voinovich&#8217;s stance considering he voted for two rounds of the Bush tax cuts, <a href="http://www.cbpp.org/9-27-06tax.htm" rel="nofollow">which lead us to the current deficit.</a></p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jeff, I can&#039;t take credit for the idea, it&#039;s actually one of the ideas promoted by James K. Galbraith and I thought it had not only merit but was interested in what the rest of you thought about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jeff, I can&#8217;t take credit for the idea, it&#8217;s actually one of the ideas promoted by James K. Galbraith and I thought it had not only merit but was interested in what the rest of you thought about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Since we have a variety of different ideologies on this thread, I’d be interested in opinions on the idea of eliminating social security taxes for a six month or a year for both employees and employers as a way to increase both personal income and business income.&quot;

An excellent idea, in my view.  An immediate tax cut/pay raise for every wage earner in the United States.  You want to stimulate demand in a hurry?  You&#039;d be hard-pressed to find a more efficient, effective way.  And if we&#039;re going to spend billions we don&#039;t have, shouldn&#039;t we err on the pro-growth side of letting people keep more of their current money rather than the statist side of taking more of their future money?

LR - Run for Congress.  I&#039;ll be your first contributor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since we have a variety of different ideologies on this thread, I’d be interested in opinions on the idea of eliminating social security taxes for a six month or a year for both employees and employers as a way to increase both personal income and business income.&#8221;</p>
<p>An excellent idea, in my view.  An immediate tax cut/pay raise for every wage earner in the United States.  You want to stimulate demand in a hurry?  You&#8217;d be hard-pressed to find a more efficient, effective way.  And if we&#8217;re going to spend billions we don&#8217;t have, shouldn&#8217;t we err on the pro-growth side of letting people keep more of their current money rather than the statist side of taking more of their future money?</p>
<p>LR &#8211; Run for Congress.  I&#8217;ll be your first contributor.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, I don&#039;t think Collins is going to change positions, not after reading &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/02/07/20090207stimulus0207.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not totally against the stimulus package, but personally I would have liked to have seen more immediate help and delayed some of the larger long term projects to be fought over later.  

Since we have a variety of different ideologies on this thread, I&#039;d be interested in opinions on the idea of eliminating social security taxes for a six month or a year for both employees and employers as a way to increase both personal income and business income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, I don&#8217;t think Collins is going to change positions, not after reading <a href="http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/02/07/20090207stimulus0207.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not totally against the stimulus package, but personally I would have liked to have seen more immediate help and delayed some of the larger long term projects to be fought over later.  </p>
<p>Since we have a variety of different ideologies on this thread, I&#8217;d be interested in opinions on the idea of eliminating social security taxes for a six month or a year for both employees and employers as a way to increase both personal income and business income.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeff, i too was relived to see the no vote.  maybe he can get to snowe or collins.  specter is a lost cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeff, i too was relived to see the no vote.  maybe he can get to snowe or collins.  specter is a lost cause.</p>
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		<title>By: LBW</title>
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		<dc:creator>LBW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t stand seeing the same tired old &lt;b&gt;white men&lt;b&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am outraged by your blatant use of racism and race bating. I dream that one day people will be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Mark</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I can’t stand seeing the same tired old <b>white men</b><b><br />
</b></p></blockquote>
<p>I am outraged by your blatant use of racism and race bating. I dream that one day people will be judged on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand seeing the same tired old white men, who haven&#039;t spent even one day out of the last 20 or so actually WORKING, debating the economic stimulus package.  How can they know what is good for the country&#039;s working people when they haven&#039;t worked an honest day in the last 20 years?  I think they all ought to resign, as they have abdicated their responsibilities to govern by going along with the failed policies of the Iraq war and tax cuts for the wealthy.

Where are all the jobs that the Bush tax cuts were supposed to create?  Or the Taft tax cuts for that matter?  To paraphrase Cuba Gooding&#039;s character in &lt;i&gt; &quot;Jerry Maguire&quot;, &quot;Show me the jobs!&quot;

Oh I know, we were attacked on 9/11 and our economy is still in a tailspin from that.  9/11 changed everything, Blah, blah, and blah!  Get over 9/11 already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand seeing the same tired old white men, who haven&#8217;t spent even one day out of the last 20 or so actually WORKING, debating the economic stimulus package.  How can they know what is good for the country&#8217;s working people when they haven&#8217;t worked an honest day in the last 20 years?  I think they all ought to resign, as they have abdicated their responsibilities to govern by going along with the failed policies of the Iraq war and tax cuts for the wealthy.</p>
<p>Where are all the jobs that the Bush tax cuts were supposed to create?  Or the Taft tax cuts for that matter?  To paraphrase Cuba Gooding&#8217;s character in <i> &#8220;Jerry Maguire&#8221;, &#8220;Show me the jobs!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh I know, we were attacked on 9/11 and our economy is still in a tailspin from that.  9/11 changed everything, Blah, blah, and blah!  Get over 9/11 already!</i></p>
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