The largest question surrounding James Moody…Which house does he live in? Updated…
Yesterday after I received the media release announcing that Jim or James Moody (his name is used as both) was running for Toledo Mayor I did what I normally do, researched public records. While I am a blogger and not a journalist, I emailed Mr. Moody last night to ask him a few questions concerning the material that I found that I wanted more information on, I was trying to give him the opportunity to respond so that what I wrote would be as accurate as possible. One of the main areas of concern was related to where does Jim Moody live? I received no response, so I’m going to address just one part of the questions I asked, residency…
It’s been stated to me from more than one source that they heard directly from Jim Moody that his wife and his children were not planning on moving into Toledo, I wanted to know if that was true. It was also said by several others that Jim Moody was residing in Sylvania township at a home he owns with his wife on Hunters Green Road. Voting records confirm his wife lives and votes from that address, voting records confirm that James D. Moody changed his voter registration address on 7/14/2008 to a property located on Parkview, that was deeded in his name until May of 2008 at which time it was transferred to Greater Metropolitan Title Company. Voting records also show that was the address that Moody voted from in the most recent election.
Since I’ve received no response, we are left with wondering, has he lived at the Parkview address since 7/14/2008? From a legal standpoint that is the address he used to vote from, and while I’m not a lawyer, I’m under the impression that you generally have to live at the address that you are voting from. What is impossible not to notice is there is a huge difference in these two homes.
Here we have the home on Hunters Green – it has a 100% tax value of $225,000:
Here we have the home on Parkview – it has a 100% tax value of $19,900:
What we are left with is the impression that Jim Moody is willingly not living in his beautiful home in Sylvania but moved to the home on Parkview and lived there not because of any type of marital separation, since he mentioned his wife in yesterday’s release, but to establish residency to run for Mayor. Technically the way the Charter reads he has to be a resident for one year prior to taking the oath of office. Which would mean where he lives right now at this moment would matter. I think that’s an important issue, and I’m sure that it is one that he had to have expected would be asked, what we don’t know at this point is what his answer is.
For those of you curious, I have done similar checking on the other announced candidate for this race and I will check public record documents and share anything of interest on any other candidates when they formally announce. When possible, I will try to give those candidates the same ability to answer any questions I have with Jim Moody.
Updated 5:10 p.m.: In response to my questions as to which property did Mr. Moody live at and did he live at the Parkview Address after he changed his voter registration address, I received the following response that references the residency question from Jim Moody:
With regards to my residency, I am indeed a resident of Toledo. I have owned my residence for quite some time. I live in Toledo and pay Toledo taxes.
My wife owns a home on Hunters Green with my 13 year old daughter. While my family is fully supportive of my candidacy for mayor, we decided as a family not to have my daughter switch schools at this point. However, after I win the election, my wife, daughter and I will sit down as a family and decide what’s best for the family.
Heh.
Nice work, Lisa, you non-journalist you.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:46 ampersonally, the ethical standard is beating me about the face, neck and upper chest area with red flags.
It was nice to watch this seed blossom into a full-blown scandal in 24 hours.
well done
January 6th, 2009 at 11:50 amMike, one of the critiques that had been leveled in the past when I’ve shared public record information was did I ask the person for “their side” of it. It’s not always going to be possible to do that as a blogger and at times people aren’t going to respond, but I am trying to do that when I have questions.
Brian, I’m not sure yet, if he did really live at the Parkview address there’s nothing wrong with that. I do however think that it’s going to be hard for people to believe that given the choice, he’d pick the Parkview address over the one where he would live with his family in Sylvania. His family could plan on moving into a different home in Toledo if he wins, we really don’t know since he didn’t answer.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:01 pmSo, he emails you the media release, but won’t email back an answer to your questions? While I understand his “right” to not have to answer the questions, you’d think if he had nothing to hide he’d have simply answered them.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:07 pmI don’t know why I didn’t get a response, I could speculate but that would be unfair. All I do know is that I found the information yesterday, attempted to get a response and then waited until almost 15 hours later to post part of what I had asked him.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:14 pmGood work Lisa!
Surely he (or someone representing him) will get back to you with the information…, just as soon as it is “compiled…”
January 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pmLisa:
Being a journalist is a state of mind. As you know from our previous discussions about this topic, I consider your work on items like this to be the essence of journalism: you research a topic, dig up the information, and present it to your readers.
Just because your venue is GCJ instead of, say, the Wall Street Journal does not make you less of a journalist. Besides, your radio, TV, and print histories somewhat deflate your “just a blogger” argument.
Anyways, I know you will still hold to your “not a journalist” line, so I bid you à tout à l’heure and go off in search of some DayQuil with which to attack the viruses that decided to claim my respiratory system as their home.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:45 pmThanks Mike, I hope you feel better and I appreciate your understanding of my stubborn refusal to call myself a journalist.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:47 pmWe must give our local Republican Party another point for giving us such a fine choice! Wilkowski must be loving this since the other media outlets are sure to pick this story up and run with it. I can hardly wait until Jan. 13th for the formal announcement of his candidacy as there are sure to be interesting questions posed on this issue. Maybe we should attend his grand opening tomorrow, you know – the office right on the edge of Toledo/ Syl Twp. I believe one of your other threads said it was actually in Sylvania School district.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:51 pmIsn’t it illegal to vote in a city that you don’t live in?
January 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pmWow….Lisa…..I don’t want to be on your bad side…. s/
Great Work….Keep it up…..
btw….who be he?
btw2..the Parkview property is …. was…should be…oh….never mind.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pmIn defense of Lisa, she would ask the same questions of anyone who did something similar. Did he think no one would notice his residency issues?
January 6th, 2009 at 1:15 pmInteresting that he didn’t respond. Sometimes those who are new to politics think it is wise to ignore the blogs. That may not be the best idea but to each their own.
Jon, I believe it can be illegal depending on the circumstances, but I’m hesitant in this scenario to make that as an accusation since we don’t know the full details.
Tom, as I wrote, I did the same checking for the other candidate, he didn’t have anything that raised questions, and I’ll do the same thing with future ones that announce. As we saw in the thread yesterday, this is all public record information that other commenters quickly found as well. I’m not going to focus on things like minor traffic citations, but I think that there are valid residency questions and perhaps a few other issues that should be vetted publicly.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:18 pmThanks Meghan, if I’m going to do this, I have to do it fairly and look at every candidate with the same perspective. Else I’ll be just as selective as some that I take issue with.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pmMmmmmm a reason not to consider or even vote for Jim Moody for mayor of Toledo. Go-figure and it’s almost an insult if Mr. Moody thinks we’re stupid enough to oversee his non-residence status of Toledo.
January 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pmAgreed – Moody may have excellent ideas, but his credibility falls to zero if he comes across as a suburbanite trying to pretend to be a city resident. Admittedly, suburban citizens are influenced by what hapens in the metropolis (and to a lesser extent vice versa), but I think candidates should establish legitimate residency in the municipality or political entity they intend to represent.
Also – if Moody wanted to convince us of his Toledo-ness, you’d think he would buy a more expensive property in a more upscale neighborhood. The 19K bottom-barrel house on Parkview probably is not in liveable condition, at least based on the sub-$20K houses I have seen in Toledo.
January 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pmI’m not sure about that Mike. With housing prices falling, you might be able to move into Old Orchard or Westmoreland for $20,000.
January 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pmHeh. At the current rate of real estate implosion, we might be able to buy Monclova and Sylvania McMansions for $19K in a couple of years.
We thought our house would fetch $170K a few years ago, but I suspect we would be lucky to get $120K today, and who knows if such a buyer could even get financing?
January 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pmLet me get this straight… a person moves to a new city/location, is concerned about the current direction its political leaders are taking it, and this is a problem???
Since when does the desire to be a public servant deserve such a thrashing? Does this town really want to keep accepting more of the thumpings it receives from Carty Finkbeiner?
January 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pmI don’t think asking valid questions related to residency is “thrashing” anyone. It’s public records information not some deep dark detective work. Would you want your mayor to actually live in your city? I would…
January 6th, 2009 at 3:40 pmHenri, let me give you an example of what is quick and easy to find, take your email address, which only you or I know, and google it. In a matter of seconds, it’s easy to find out quite a bit of information on one person.
Public record information is not that much more difficult to locate, and if you focus on transparency, which I always try to, it’s never wrong to ask valid questions. Mr. Moody will be asked much harder questions as this goes on, including from the media who will request tax records, credit history and a variety of much more personal information than voter registration and Lucas County property records…
January 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pmSo a rich Republican decides to punch his political ticket by moving into a slum in a Democrat-rich town? If Moody’s IQ is anywhere as low as his tactical sense, his political career will end on primary day.
January 6th, 2009 at 6:41 pmI believe that Mr Moody is trying to stay close to his peeps. You know, to be close to the people you want to vote for you, you must know how they live. “Moody from the hood” if you will. His car will probably have some “22’s” next week.
January 6th, 2009 at 6:54 pmAll joking aside, I’m a bit disappointed that when he finally did respond, he did not really respond with any specifics. Where he really lives has not been confirmed, when he moved there has not been confirmed and the house on Hunters Green is not owned by just his wife, it’s owned by the two of them, “James D. & Cheryl A Moody” is what it says on Areis for that particular home. Nor is he the owner of the home on Parkview, that was transferred to the Greater Metropolitan Title Company prior to his changing his voter registration and his designation of treasurer form that lists the Parkview address from 7/21/08.
Hopefully he’ll be more forthcoming with the media.
January 6th, 2009 at 7:35 pmLisa… I do not post much. I guess I don’t have much to say. But I’ve been reading your work and some of the other local blogs for quite some time, and I must say you are getting better and better all the time. Nice job. Very nice job.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:31 pmI love how you base you decisions on assumptions. Everything you have stated is predicated on theory’s not facts. Your speculations are pretty pathetic but I’m sure when Democrats feel threatened by others, speculation is all you have to make yourselves look better. Maybe if you spent more time researching what Jim Moody stands for and how he could help our great City of Toledo rather than on where he lives, we could actually accomplish something productive and dig the city out of the terrible debt were in. Then again you probably didn’t know that because you speculate and assume.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pmSo if you’re so hung up on where a man lives instead of how he can help you, as well as the many citizens of our city then why don’t you run for the mayor of Toledo.
Nathan, voting records, property records, records that show a treasurer designation are not “assumptions” they are facts.
All I was looking for was what should have been simple answers, is Mr. Moody living at the Parkview address, and if so when did he move there.
As you can see, none of those questions were answered…
January 6th, 2009 at 9:15 pmsorry nathan, but thine ruler must dwell within the confines of his kingdom
getting to go home to happyland across the city limits is not an option
but I hope the truth comes out, and just in case Mr. Moody is in violation, Jon can step up fast enough with another viable Republican candidate.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pmOne thing never changes, the expectation that transparency, honesty and disclosure exist only seems to matter to those who want it to apply to someone else. When you question someone that they support, rather than expect the same as they would from candidates they don’t like, it’s either justifications or attempts to shoot the messenger.
It’s sad that it has become so predictable.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pmLisaRenee wrote:
Which is really sad, because, IMO, if he was a stand up kind of man who could/would make the changes Toledo needs, he’d have came out and did whatever was necessary to prove you wrong!
I see a VERY short lived campaign here!
January 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pmScotland ‘09.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pmBy the way, you stated that Mr. Moody “finally” responded to your question on where he lives. How did he do this?
January 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pmWas it by e-mail, hand written letter, phone, or face to face?
My quess it was e-mail or writtin letter, and if so why can we not see that.
If this is true you have no problems posting pictures of his home, why not his actual response.
It seems to me he’s proven he lives in Toledo.
Nathan, see the part where it’s written in blockquotes? Where it says on the blog:
Updated 5:10 p.m.: In response to my questions as to which property did Mr. Moody live at and did he live at the Parkview Address after he changed his voter registration address, I received the following response that references the residency question from Jim Moody:
That was his response on the issue of residency.
If you can find direct answers in that, that I somehow missed? Please feel free to share.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pmi live on parkview and there are nothing but hard working people who live here and i take your coments as though your looking at us from your high horse . toledo is toledo all hard working and all in the same boat.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pmyes your right your not a journalist your an elitist. i hope u can hear me all the way up there we down here own computers to!
Dear “in the area”
Far from it, you clearly are new or you’d know that where I live there are no $225,000 homes, I actually moved back into Toledo with my whole family…
I’m guessing the emails have begun to be sent out to tell you guys to head over and rather than address the questions that were raised? Play shoot the messenger.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pmin the area wrote:
Not to be all elitist or anything, but the word you’re looking for is *you’re* a short version of ‘you are.’
January 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pmAre you kidding me? Look at the first paragraph of the response you posted! He stated he lives in Toledo and pays Toledo taxes! If someone moved to Toledo, is a registered voter in Toledo, and pays Toledo taxes, DOESN’T THAT MEAN THEY LIVE IN TOLEDO?
January 6th, 2009 at 9:41 pmWho cares if his wife and children live in Sylvania or Pensylvania. Were not voting for them!
Next, please post where it states you can’t own more than one residence in the mayoral candidate handbook.
One last thing, I always reading this blog, so get off where he lives, and start to focus on the current issues.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pmYou’ll excuse me Nathan if I’d like actual “confirmation” which is what this was all about, there were questions, I was seeking direct answers.
It’s clear you aren’t interested in really discussing this or really seem to care whether a Mayoral candidate really lives in Toledo or not.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pmI don’t know that I feel comfortable with a mayor whose family does not feel that Toledo is “good enough” for them. One would think that the discussion on residency post victory would be a foregone conclusion and not open for debate from a 13 year old.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:46 pmAlso Nathan, your ip address and email are new, so you’ve never commented before, at least under this email account or ip address, all of those who have commented on this thread in defense of Mr. Moody are new.
The only reason why his wife and daughter’s residency was even a question was because this is a bit of an different circumstance to have a candidate living in a home only to run for an office and I had several people tell me that he told them that his family was not planning to move into Toledo, regardless of the outcome. If this was wrong, it needed to be clarified.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:49 pmI do care if a Mayoral candidate lives in Toledo. From what you posted, he acknowledge it three times, HE LIVES IN TOLEDO!
January 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pmWhere? When?
That we don’t know…
January 6th, 2009 at 9:54 pmI have never seen Lisa knock somebody for the location of their home. The question posed was does Moody really expect people to believe he would choose to live in a house valued at 19K or in the home that his family lives in valued at 225K. Most people regardless of the situation would prefer the nicer home for obvious reasons.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pmLIsa,
January 6th, 2009 at 10:01 pmYOu have done a great job in vetting Mr. Moody. The presidential election has demonstrated that the majority of the American populace are vastly in favor of transparency. Keep up the good work!!!
Where…according to this blog Parkview. When…according to what you posted quite some time.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:01 pmI didn’t say I commented at all, I said I read this blog a lot because 90% of the time you have intelligent insight into what is going on in the city.
I just don’t understand this one.
Nathan – I’m sure Moody has some great ideas to offer problem is WE HAVEN’T HEARD WHAT THEY ARE!
January 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pmNathan, that’s the whole point, I don’t know if he lives at the Parkview address or not, or for how long. If I was going to “assume” I would have done that, that is why I asked him very specifically for the details as to when and where.
I’m sorry you don’t understand why I thought that was an important question to raise. It’s one I would raise with any candidate, no matter who they are.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pmI like the Scotland 09 idea, he has already been vetted and the dirty laundry has been aired.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pmWhich I guess I could be blamed for that too…
Perhaps eventually candidates will figure out that many of us are pretty proficient when it comes to looking up public record information, and that the easiest way to make sure questions don’t become large issues, is to fully disclose.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pmMaybe it is time that we remove the “residency” requirement. After all, are we not all part of LEW, and most businesses extend way beyond the confines of the city. So what if the guy does not spend every night (or even the greater part of a week) in a residence chosen as a political accommodation. Many of our requirements are outdated.
Mr. Moody probably pays part of his taxes in Toledo, and another part where his wife lives. He has interests in Toledo because of his business. We require our city employees to live within the city limits, and yet no business would require that of its employees. That should change. And maybe we ought to consider such a change for our mayors. I certainly hope that if we change back to the city manager form of government that this idiocy will not follow any person who chooses to be city manager.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pmI think elected officials should live in the city they are being elected to represent, to eliminate that would mean that any person from anywhere could run for any one of the mayoral races. Unless we were to become one giant area, then it wouldn’t matter.
Then again, I was serious enough on this issue to move back into Toledo because I felt that if I was going to blog with a focus on Toledo, I couldn’t fairly do it while living in Springfield Township. I’m impacted by decisions made here, because I live here.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pmNathan and Hertz,
I don’t mean to sound pseudo-chivalrous, but you guys need to back off and find a new target for your partisan ire I’m as Republican as they get and I can tell you that Lisa doesn’t play that game. She is not a Democratic activist (at least on this blog), nor is she an elitist.
A lot of important and influential people read this blog. Nathan, if you are a friend of or campaign volunteer for Mr. Moody, you are doing him a disservice by attacking Lisa. I’d recommend you back off now.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pmWell Brian Schwartz, I am not a resident of Toledo nor do i know Jim Moody. Whom ever wins this election does not effect me in any way. Also I’m not attacking her I’m calling her out. Were having a good debate. I, as well as many other people would like to see Toledo get it’s fare shake at someone who may actually do something for a dying city.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pmI guess we will all find out in the end when the election is over, then we will see who comes out on top. So theres no disrespect to anyone here and you don’t need to defend your friend Lisa anymore.
But, Lisa, what difference does it make if someone lives a mile outside the city limit, and spends their working day in Toledo, and someone else who lives in Toledo, but returns here only to sleep? Mr. Moody might have more than his business interests in mind now that he has decided to run for mayor, and we should give him the benefit of a doubt. I went on AREIS, and found several properties under James Moody, Jim Moody, and Cheryl Moody. Would he have to reside in one of these properties, or could he lay his head down in various ones as the need struck him? In this present day and time a person of means seldom has one residence, but does that mean that he would not have a great deal of interest in where he does the majority of his business? These pesky residency requirements should be done away with.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pmResidency is important and I want people that represent me and receive my tax dollars to live in Toledo. I’m sure that Sylvania would be up in arms if someone who lived in Toledo were to run for their mayoral position.
If readers think back to the former city employee, Jim Thurston and his residency issues, it does seem to be a rather parallel scenario to Mr. Moody.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20030322&Category=NEWS03&ArtNo=103220122&Ref=AR
I’m not sure how to post the Blade reference, but Mr. Thurston set up an apartment in Toledo to meet city residency requirements but never actually lived there. I believe he did use the address to pay bills and vote, but was eventually caught out.
We do want better leadership so I believe it is important to be open and honest about everything. Residency seems such a strange area to be tripped up on so early in the campaign, so perhaps he really does live on Parkview.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:50 pmThere is a residency requirement to be met here. Where he puts his head down most of the time he is in this area is in my mind where he lives.
Brian Schwartz wrote:
Brian and I are definitely on the same page with this one.
Nathan, I saw no assumptions in what Lisa wrote. I found some facts, questions and discussion of what it would mean. She gave the guy ample opportunity to respond. If the campaign sent out this notice, then Moody is aware that the information would be posted. 15 hours is more than enough time. I find Moody’s response to be vague and certainly did not answer the question.
Until the residency requirement is changed, where he lives does matter.
Should he have an interest in Toledo? Yes! What happens to Toledo should matter to all in the burbs. For NWO to be prosperous, Toledo must be revitalized. What happens in Toledo will matter to all the burb dwellers sooner or later. I’ve been a supporter of a unigov approach for some time. It could sure save a lot of money. But of course, Toledo has the population to dominate the discussion – end of discussion.
January 7th, 2009 at 12:31 amPerhaps this post will take the discussion in a different direction (sorry Lisa), but unigov makes sense for everybody in Lucas County except Oregon.
What benefit does unigov offer Oregon. We have our own water, so we don’t need the break on water sales from Toledo. We have more acreage than any Toledo suburb with almost 36 square miles. Much of it is undeveloped and could be used for housing. We have a nice-sized industrial park, two refineries, low property taxes, good schools. a good police department, and with the exception of one member, a well-qualified and strong city council. Frankly, Oregon doesn’t need the rest of the county.
For unigov to be successful, there has to be 100 percent participation. How do you get Oregon to opt in? Oregon has all of the necessary ingredients to develop a larger, more modern industrial base than exists in Toledo now.
January 7th, 2009 at 12:48 amYeah, I am now going to vote for a Canadian citizen to be my next President of the United States.
you guys make just as much sense.
January 7th, 2009 at 5:32 amBrian Schwartz wrote:
Sorry, but unigov does NOT makes sense for everyone but Oregon, and there would not be 100% participation absent Oregon. Heck, Sylvania township just rejected merging with the City of Sylvania 70-30; can you imagine what the vote would be to merge with Toledo?
January 7th, 2009 at 5:55 amThe question of residency was raised when the hero of the blade, Joe Kidd, wanted to run for city council I believe he was living on someones couch in their basement. He did not fare well in the primary as is the case with all of Mr. Stainbrook’s candidates. I would expect this one to turn out in similar fashion as his infatuation with Stainbrook blossoms.
Although I do not know Mr. Moody or have any idea what he proposes for Toledo he already has some formidable opponents and will likely be moving back to the suburbia in September. Smart move on the low cost house, it will make a fine property for someone else next fall!
January 7th, 2009 at 8:12 amAn interesting string on a canidate that few know a lot about. I followed Lisa’s advice and did a public record search as well. Jim/James/Cheryl Moody have, and current do, own a large number of residential properties within the city limits. If fact, he apparently has owned the property on Parkview for a greater period of time than you indicated above.
I guess my view is a mixture of several options stated earlier. Residency is important, only in the fact that it is the law. If Mr. Moody can bring a new level of energy and real business friendly foresight to the office of mayor, that would be more important to me as a voter, than when he changed residences, provided that he had complied with all of the laws. Actually, it seems to be a big sacrfice to be away from your wife and daughter the majority of the time and live in a home smaller than you are used to.
So far from the article I have read in the TFP, Blade and a couple blogs, I really like his ideas for business growth, homeownership and budget transparency. Obviously he is in this for a greater purpose, and it looks like zero personal gain.
Lets let the facts and true beliefs come out before we pass judgement.
BTW…for the comment from JonC “One would think that the discussion on residency post victory would be a foregone conclusion and not open for debate from a 13 year old.”…have you ever dealt with a teenage daughter before? Whewwwww….I would not want to have that conversation.
January 7th, 2009 at 9:26 amI didn’t state how long he owned the home on Parkview, only that he transferred it out of his name into a title company two months prior to listing that as his legal address for voting and for his designation of treasurer form. The fact that he is an investor and owns property in Toledo was not in dispute, the questions involved his personal residency. That’s why I only listed dates relevant to that.
He has not yet confirmed that the Parkview address is one that he does live at, which since you’ve done the research too, you know there could be several locations he could have as a residency, which is why the question was asked.
To get a full idea of the homes owned you’d have to look up his, the properties in his wife’s name and the ones held by the title company.
January 7th, 2009 at 9:33 amWow, I have never enjoyed so much the banter over whether someone is “Toledoan” enough, in my life. Are we pledging a fraternity, here, or teetering on the brink of becoming the next Detroit?
I did some research, and found to my shock that many people of leadership DIDN’T come from Toledo! I was stunned! Does Carty know about this?! Isn’t there some Charter requirement stating that ALL those seeking positions of responsibility and leadership must be able to trace their linage back to “Mad” Anthony Wayne?
Okay, he’s what I’ve uncovered so far (and only on my second pot of coffee):
First Solar Energy is run by a guy from Phoenix AZ! Yeah CEO Michael J. Ahearn is NOT from Toledo! And worse yet, Xunlight Corporation is run by Dr. Xunming Deng from CHINA!
Jeep, and Chrysler CEO Thomas LaSorda is from Windsor, Ontario (my sources tell me, that’s in Canada!). Michael H. Thaman, CEO of Owens-Corning, was once director of Florida Power & Light Group, Inc.
And what about Gary L. Convis, CEO of Dana Corporation? He retired in 2007 as the Chairman of Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Kentucky to work for Dana. Now, I know Kentucky is nowhere near Toledo (they let their 3-yr-old children kill bears there).
Even our own Jack Ford was born in Springfield, OH, and that’s almost in Dayton (http://www.answers.com/topic/jack-ford).
In fact, one of the few leaders I can find that was “born & bred” in Toledo is Carlton S. Finkbeiner, Mayor of Toledo. How’s that working out?
So when you tell me that a man, who has spent decades in the Toledo area, building a business, raising a family, and even paying taxes in Toledo, is now doing the unconscionable by following the law in running for public office, I have to laugh, and shake my head at the stupidity I see!
Carry on…
January 7th, 2009 at 10:47 amRogue, it should have been simple, he lives at (fill in the blank) address and moved there in (fill in the blank).
No matter how stupid you might think asking questions are, when people aren’t forthcoming and there is concern? Questions are going to be asked, and the easiest way to make sure it doesn’t turn into a 65 plus debate is to answer the questions or to frame the information that’s released knowing that this was going to be a question, so that these questions are already answered.
That’s a huge problem that your party has had in the past and still has.
Scotland’s tax issues could have been put out there and framed properly would have been less of an issue. Moody’s residence could have been out there and framed properly would have been less than an issue.
It’s not as if it was a secret that he lived in Sylvania and no one still knows when he actually took up residency in Toledo or where. I don’t think “some time” is since 7/14/2008.
Now you may be able to convince some people that he would willingly live in the Parkview Home rather than with his wife and daughter in Sylvania, but for some, they are going to either a) never believe it or b) at least need more direct answers than happened so far.
Hopefully if his residency is challenged he’ll be able to come up with at least what Joe Kidd did and that he doesn’t have happen to him what happened to one past candidate who was found to not really live where he said he did…
January 7th, 2009 at 11:08 amIt’s interesting if you check the Secretary of State’s voter information on the Moodys.
He has (very sporadically I might add) listed his address as Parkview for voter registration since 2000.
Cheryl Moody has voted from the Hunters Green address since 2000.
January 7th, 2009 at 11:25 amLisa,
I am not “staffing” Jim Moody. If I were, this would have been a non-issue.
BUT, as I understand the Charter, any candidate for Mayor had to be safely ensconced in their Toledo beds by midnight, just over a week ago, on December 31st. I think we have to agree a preponderance of the evidence suggests Mr. Moody beat that deadline.
The City Charter is furthermore silent on the issue of visiting relatives outside the city limits, another loophole Carty is sure to fix.
So, if all this bluster was to see if the Moody Campaign could answer a question to your satisfaction, then I say score “one” for Lisa! I’m on my way to the “white yuppies for Bell” meeting!
Carry on…
January 7th, 2009 at 11:33 amWhen you look at the Lucas County Voter Database, it notes the date a registration is changed, Jim Moody’s was changed on 7/14/2008 – he is currently registered at Parkview but your voting record follows you. As an example I’ve only lived here two years but my voter record shows my past voting – it doesn’t designate the address change on the SoS site.
January 7th, 2009 at 11:35 amI don’t see this as a “score” if anything it was the opposite, the question wasn’t answered, there’s nothing that indicates any confirmation of the direct question that was asked as to which house is his residency and when did he move there.
I don’t do the whole “score” thing anyway, when I post without asking someone people take issue, when I attempt to get the answers first, you suggest it’s some type of a victory? If that’s what this was about, I’d be doing it totally differently…
It’s not December 31st by the way, it’s one year from the date the oath of office is taken…As an example, Carty took office on January 4, 2006…
January 7th, 2009 at 11:45 amPs… I think you’d have to become a yuppie first to be a “white yuppie for Mike Bell”.
Good luck with that.
January 7th, 2009 at 11:46 amWe can’t all be like you, Lisa!
January 7th, 2009 at 11:50 amrogue, looks like i’ll see you at the meeting. gotta go, scotland’s here to pick me up!
January 7th, 2009 at 11:51 amTax Time wrote:
I would assume that as mayor of Toledo Mr. Moody would have quite a bit to gain in the real estate business. The ability to bring legislation that would remove antiquated housing stock, and replace it with newer (and more expensive) stock would be a God send to the housing market at this time. Also, the removal of cheaper housing stock from the inner city would result in many of the poorer residents leaving the city (and our social safety net) for other climes. This would encourage other, more affluent residents to stay, and get rid of a source of constant irritation. I believe that people act in their own self interests. I think the interest of any business man is to encourage his business, not some altruistic folderol. So I am not certain about “zero personal gain”.
January 7th, 2009 at 11:53 amRogue – perhaps we should do away with all residency requirements for every office. Let the carpetbagging begin. I can win here, so I’ll move. Yes it is done some now, but watch the free for all. I don’t think living in the community you represent has anything to do with how “Toledo” you are. Seems to me residency requirements exist all across our country. Why do you think that might be?
I don’t think anyone has to trace their lineage back to Toledo. I do think they should live where what they do as a public official affects them just as much as it does every citizen that is their neighbor. Yes Moody has business ties, but so do a lot of other people.
I actually supported Harner (remember the static he got because he wanted to do what was best for his family) for TPS superintendent because I believed he was best for the job. But he was not elected to represent me. He was hired to do a job just as all the business leaders you pointed out.
Residency requirements are part of the price you pay to lead your neighbors. I don’t know any office that does not require residency. Although I know of many that tried hard to skirt the issue like the late 5th district congressman Gilmor.
Laugh away, but you would have a hard time selling that argument to the majority of the population in every entity; national, state, county and city, etc. that residency should be eliminated.
January 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pmWOW…74 posts later and still my vote will not be considered for Mr. Moody because there are too many variables showing that he’s not a resident of Toledo. Some of the past posts are utter ridiculous at this point (which I will not name because it’s obvious) and how about this: why not Katie Holmes run for mayor or Jamie Farr despite of his or her address? Let the illogic thoughts run amok…
Let’s stop wasting time on people who are running for mayor that are questionable or are not a certificable resident and focus on those who are. It is almost as asinine as if anyone taking the “Take Back Toledo” seriously, go-figure.
January 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pmI’m with Rockets Man!
January 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pmRockets Man wrote:
I agree rockets, carty is a certified blue blood of toledo, and a certifiable lunatic. What more should we expect from a mayor?
January 7th, 2009 at 12:55 pmso…Hillary really was from New York all along??
January 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pmMindy, no one has stated that someone who was not born in Toledo can not be Mayor, it’s not the President.
What was asked was a very simple series of questions because there were questions concerning where Mr. Moody lived and there was factual evidence out there that did not give a clear picture. There were no direct answers. He was just on Fox news a few moments ago and he did confirm that he’s living on Parkview, but did not say when he started living away from his family. I’ll link the coverage when it’s online and more will be on at 10:00
You do have to be a resident of Toledo for one year prior to taking the oath of office.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pmAnd if you knew your Hillary Clinton history, people called her a carpetbagger…
January 7th, 2009 at 4:52 pmJim’s daughter goes to Sylvania schools. I am sure all of you know that there are multiple areas within the city that you can live and go to a suburban school. As a matter of fact, you can live in Toledo and go to Ottawa Hills,Springfield, and even Sylvania, or Washington Local schools. Councilman Sarantou lives in sylvania school district, police chief Mike Navarre lives in sylvania school district as well as many other employees who don’t live in Toledo at all. I am perplexed as to why we would be so critical about someone trying to make a difference. I applaud him for taking this chance, and I thank his family for their sacrifice away from him. I am quite certain when Moody wins, a house will become available in the sylvania school for his daughter to continue her schooling.
January 7th, 2009 at 6:37 pmJoe, the majority of this is not related at all to trying to bash anyone. It’s completely fair and logical when presented with a candidate who is not known to have lived in Toledo to ask questions. Had the information been shared? There would have been no questions.
You worked with Jim Moody at Flex Reality, so I’m sure you do know him but you should also remember that for me it’s not whether I like someone or don’t like them, it’s about sharing information.
I don’t disagree that there are homes that are in Sylvania Schools District and Toledo, to be honest, that’s what I expected as an answer. It’s surprising that what could have just been a simple question, “Which house does Jim Moody live in” ended up being one that was difficult to discover.
January 7th, 2009 at 6:50 pmmmmm kay, can we end this debate now?
January 7th, 2009 at 7:19 pmGreenrax #73 commented the following:
“I would assume that as mayor of Toledo Mr. Moody would have quite a bit to gain in the real estate business. The ability to bring legislation that would remove antiquated housing stock, and replace it with newer (and more expensive) stock would be a God send to the housing market at this time. Also, the removal of cheaper housing stock from the inner city would result in many of the poorer residents leaving the city (and our social safety net) for other climes. This would encourage other, more affluent residents to stay, and get rid of a source of constant irritation. I believe that people act in their own self interests. I think the interest of any business man is to encourage his business, not some altruistic folderol. So I am not certain about “zero personal gain”.”
Perhaps he should do what I did and take advantage of AREIS to look at where and what type of properties Mr. Moody and his wife own. Although I can still think of how greenrax’s kind of legislation would benefit the Moodys.
I believe it is really admirable for a candidate to live in an inner city neighborhood and share in the concerns and problems that a lot of Toledo residents have. He will gain first hand knowledge and I look forward to hearing about he will solve the problems as Mayor. At least if he really lives on Parkview.
January 7th, 2009 at 7:20 pmI am confused…he has answered twice (to you in an email or release and to Fox) that he lives at Parkview.
For RocketMan and Holly…already disqualifying a candidate based on nothing more than a single assumption leads to the type of leadership that we have come to enjoy for the last 12 years….lots of cheerleading and glad handing, as bus loads of businesses (JOBS) and college grads vacate the city and your tax bill increases while your garbage sits and crime escalates.
January 7th, 2009 at 7:25 pmActually no he didn’t, he never stated where he lived in Toledo and they own quite a few properties. All he stated was he lived in Toledo and had for “some time.” Until today on Fox, it was confirmed that it was the Parkview address. He’s never said when he moved, we can assume it had to have been around 7/14/2008 but that was another question that was not answered.
January 7th, 2009 at 7:29 pmLisa, You’re fair, and that’s what i like about you.
January 7th, 2009 at 9:34 pmDeeDee,
Sorry to get to your post so late. You’re right about unigov not making sense for everyone. I didn’t express myself very well.
What I was getting at is that unigov has something to offer everyone in the county except Oregon. That is, of course, water. That is what sets Oregon apart from the rest of the county. We have our own water.
Without the lure of water, what’s Oregon’s perk?
January 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pmI’m a little late to this party, but had some thoughts anyhow…
Just because he *says* he lives on Parkview doesn’t mean he actually lives on Parkview. You can make yourself look like you live somewhere on paper, but that doesn’t mean you actually reside there.
I know a family who moved from a house in Washington Local district a few years back to a house in TPS district. They wanted to keep their kids in Washington Local schools, so they set up an arrangement with a friend who owned a vacant house in the Washington Local district. They had “lease” papers drawn up, put a utility bill in their names, etc. On paper, they had a perfect case to demonstrate residency.
Only problem was that the school got tipped off by someone. The school officials monitored the house for a little while, and it was obvious that no one was living there. *Busted*
Seems like it wouldn’t be all that difficult for someone to figure out whether Jim Moody actually ever comes and goes from that Parkview house. Or whether he only “lives” there on paper.
Whether you agree with the residency requirement is not the point. The point is that its ethically questionable to try to skirt the residency rules. *If* Mr. Moody is trying to dupe the voting public of Toledo, I think that’s a shame. I’d really be curious to hear what the real truth is…not just what can be presented on paper.
January 9th, 2009 at 12:37 amI hope he runs for mayor.
I know him by renting a house from him.
Good Luck.
January 9th, 2009 at 1:05 amFrom Allan.C
I believe that when the questions about residency are satisfied the general public will be very interested in what Jim Moody has to say.
I was privy to a brief presentation by Jim when he was contemplating his candidacy (last fall) and I can tell you that he does have some very sound ideas, the formulas to make those ideas work, and is willing to work his butt off to make Toledo a success – in spite of itself.
I truly hope that the residency concerns can be answered satisfactorily, and that this ‘issue’ becomes a ‘non-issue’ for Toledo’s sake.
Lisa – I appreciate your position of seeking the truth, and the ultimate stuff you wade through in the process. But you know, for a fact, that I don’t live in Toledo, I don’t work in Toledo and I can’t vote in Toledo. So my support for Jim Moody is not based on any of those things.
I would like to see ALL of Toledo remain open-minded, objective and willing to draw their OWN conclusions rather than what they are fed from the media.
Thanks for such an intriguing post. It’s a lot of work.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:18 pm