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		<title>By: The Erie Hiker &#187; Ottawa River Dredging Controversy Continues</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Erie Hiker &#187; Ottawa River Dredging Controversy Continues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian Schwartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if there is anything wrong with your ideas except the EPA requires most dredge spoils (some open lake dumping is allowed, but not much) to be placed in the CDF.  The Army Corp who will do the Ottawa River dredging will put the spoils in the CDF.

The dredge spoils coming out of the Ottawa River are going to be rife with heavy metals.  They will most certainly go into a CDF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if there is anything wrong with your ideas except the EPA requires most dredge spoils (some open lake dumping is allowed, but not much) to be placed in the CDF.  The Army Corp who will do the Ottawa River dredging will put the spoils in the CDF.</p>
<p>The dredge spoils coming out of the Ottawa River are going to be rife with heavy metals.  They will most certainly go into a CDF.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockets Man</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/12/why-some-support-the-ottawa-river-dredging/#comment-320382</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockets Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quote from the Blade&#039;s article: &quot;Councilman George Sarantou, chairman of the finance committee, said he understood the importance of dredging the river, but he was unsure whether council would agree to keep the money tied up. &quot;It appears this project is one or two years away,&quot; Mr. Sarantou said. &quot;What do we tell the citizens? We aren&#039;t going to hire police and fire, but we are going to dredge the Ottawa River?&quot;&quot;

BINGO!  BINGO! BINGO! Talk about common sense and will someone please give Mr. Sarantou a gold star? The highest priority of this city is to provide funds for basic services such as fire and police, forget this river dredging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quote from the Blade&#8217;s article: &#8220;Councilman George Sarantou, chairman of the finance committee, said he understood the importance of dredging the river, but he was unsure whether council would agree to keep the money tied up. &#8220;It appears this project is one or two years away,&#8221; Mr. Sarantou said. &#8220;What do we tell the citizens? We aren&#8217;t going to hire police and fire, but we are going to dredge the Ottawa River?&#8221;"</p>
<p>BINGO!  BINGO! BINGO! Talk about common sense and will someone please give Mr. Sarantou a gold star? The highest priority of this city is to provide funds for basic services such as fire and police, forget this river dredging!</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/12/why-some-support-the-ottawa-river-dredging/#comment-320377</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears after reading this that the prospects for keeping the funding for the future dredging project is dim.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081209/NEWS16/812090347&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blade article&lt;/a&gt;.  Councilwoman Webb knows that once the money is taken out of the budget, it typically never goes back.  Barring some type of an economic miracle, if the money for the Ottawa River, or for Southwyck or any of those CIP projects that were promised/held merit.  They are done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears after reading this that the prospects for keeping the funding for the future dredging project is dim.  <a href="http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081209/NEWS16/812090347" rel="nofollow">Blade article</a>.  Councilwoman Webb knows that once the money is taken out of the budget, it typically never goes back.  Barring some type of an economic miracle, if the money for the Ottawa River, or for Southwyck or any of those CIP projects that were promised/held merit.  They are done.</p>
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		<title>By: el mahico</title>
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		<dc:creator>el mahico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This silt hardens in six months time and is truckable to an off-site 
location.  

What is wrong with THAT idea ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This silt hardens in six months time and is truckable to an off-site<br />
location.  </p>
<p>What is wrong with THAT idea ?</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Jack, first the dredgings would just go back into the river when it rained so it would defeat the purpose, then there are probably a bunch of other reasons, when they dredge the Maumee, they don&#039;t dump it on the river banks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Jack, first the dredgings would just go back into the river when it rained so it would defeat the purpose, then there are probably a bunch of other reasons, when they dredge the Maumee, they don&#8217;t dump it on the river banks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Brian Schwartz&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Keep in mind that the dredge spoils have to go somewhere.  
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would think that the dredge would simply pile the spoils on the river bank as the river is dredged.  Why wouldn&#039;t this be acceptable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Brian Schwartz</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Keep in mind that the dredge spoils have to go somewhere.
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<p>I would think that the dredge would simply pile the spoils on the river bank as the river is dredged.  Why wouldn&#8217;t this be acceptable?</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick:

Go dock your boat somewhere else.  Boating season is only two and a half months out of the year anyway, so what you&#039;re really suggesting is that the rest of us should all chip in and pay for your luxury item.  Forget it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick:</p>
<p>Go dock your boat somewhere else.  Boating season is only two and a half months out of the year anyway, so what you&#8217;re really suggesting is that the rest of us should all chip in and pay for your luxury item.  Forget it.</p>
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		<title>By: el mahico</title>
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		<dc:creator>el mahico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick - sounds like you disagree with Finkbeiner&#039;s idea to rob the CIP of money that was projected for the &#039;dredge&#039;. 

Kindly go to TakeBackToledo.com and sign up for this worthwhile recall effort.  

We need a mayor that understands business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick &#8211; sounds like you disagree with Finkbeiner&#8217;s idea to rob the CIP of money that was projected for the &#8216;dredge&#8217;. </p>
<p>Kindly go to TakeBackToledo.com and sign up for this worthwhile recall effort.  </p>
<p>We need a mayor that understands business.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 04:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upgrayedd said, &quot;A deeper channel means more water can flow into the lake during a seiche, allowing the Ottawa River’s water level to drop faster than it can without dredging.&quot; What kind of thinking is this? Do you honestly believe that dredging is going to lower the lake level that much that it would allow the water level to drop? Hello! It&#039;s part of Lake Erie! Since the river is so shallow, a light west wind day will make your boat sit at the dock until the wind direction changes and it only needs to go down by a few inches to do so because of the shallow water. My rudders are sitting in the mud more than half of the season and I only draft 33 inches! If dredged, boaters would not have to worry about the water going down 6 inches because there would still be 3 or 4 feet of water below. Also, why are we talking about Franklin Park and Heatherdowns on the Ottawa River Dredging blog? Some of you need to open your mind and realize the loss of tax dollars and business this will cause if the river is not dredged. This is where the saying, it takes money to make money. Spend 5 million, or what ever the amount is, and turn it into making money by attracting more boaters and businesses to this area with deeper water. Currently, who wants to spend money on a dock to sit in the mud and have your engine suck it up and cause engine failure due to overheating? I like to see all sides and hear in all directions, but this issue only has one side. THE RIVER NEEDS DREDGED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upgrayedd said, &#8220;A deeper channel means more water can flow into the lake during a seiche, allowing the Ottawa River’s water level to drop faster than it can without dredging.&#8221; What kind of thinking is this? Do you honestly believe that dredging is going to lower the lake level that much that it would allow the water level to drop? Hello! It&#8217;s part of Lake Erie! Since the river is so shallow, a light west wind day will make your boat sit at the dock until the wind direction changes and it only needs to go down by a few inches to do so because of the shallow water. My rudders are sitting in the mud more than half of the season and I only draft 33 inches! If dredged, boaters would not have to worry about the water going down 6 inches because there would still be 3 or 4 feet of water below. Also, why are we talking about Franklin Park and Heatherdowns on the Ottawa River Dredging blog? Some of you need to open your mind and realize the loss of tax dollars and business this will cause if the river is not dredged. This is where the saying, it takes money to make money. Spend 5 million, or what ever the amount is, and turn it into making money by attracting more boaters and businesses to this area with deeper water. Currently, who wants to spend money on a dock to sit in the mud and have your engine suck it up and cause engine failure due to overheating? I like to see all sides and hear in all directions, but this issue only has one side. THE RIVER NEEDS DREDGED!</p>
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