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	<title>Comments on: State agency director had no legitimate reasons to check Wurzelbacher and more local searches</title>
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		<title>By: kateb</title>
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		<dc:creator>kateb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course she should be fired. The report says that they couldn&#039;t &#039;prove&#039; that these searches were done for &#039;political&#039; reasons. Of course they couldn&#039;t prove what she was thinking, that&#039;s an impossible standard and an unacceptable one.

There is no rational mind who does not know why these searches were done. It&#039;s a preposterous proposition that to say one cannot be guilty of wrong doing because you cannot prove what they were thinking.

If that were the case no murderer could ever be convicted - no civil case could ever be decided.

It&#039;s a ridiculous avoidance of acknowledgment and a much needed apology to the victim.

And she needn&#039;t be fired specifically for this, the fact that she was raising campaign funds on the job, with State owned equipment and email svc is reason enough to fire anyone.

Governments cannot get involved in swaying the outcome of a political race. That&#039;s a terribly dangerous slope and one to be avoided at all costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course she should be fired. The report says that they couldn&#8217;t &#8216;prove&#8217; that these searches were done for &#8216;political&#8217; reasons. Of course they couldn&#8217;t prove what she was thinking, that&#8217;s an impossible standard and an unacceptable one.</p>
<p>There is no rational mind who does not know why these searches were done. It&#8217;s a preposterous proposition that to say one cannot be guilty of wrong doing because you cannot prove what they were thinking.</p>
<p>If that were the case no murderer could ever be convicted &#8211; no civil case could ever be decided.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a ridiculous avoidance of acknowledgment and a much needed apology to the victim.</p>
<p>And she needn&#8217;t be fired specifically for this, the fact that she was raising campaign funds on the job, with State owned equipment and email svc is reason enough to fire anyone.</p>
<p>Governments cannot get involved in swaying the outcome of a political race. That&#8217;s a terribly dangerous slope and one to be avoided at all costs.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night I saw a post by Modern Esquire, which demonstrates there are a few of us out there who felt that Jones-Kelley should have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/odjfs_director_helen_jones_kelley_must_be_fired_ted&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fired&lt;/a&gt;.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.dispatch.com/dailybriefing/2008/11/harris_fire_odjfs_director_imm.shtml#more&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dispatch&lt;/a&gt; piece on Senate President Bill M. Harris demanding that Governor Strickland terminate two of the staffers is also a recommended read.  This one point is especially important:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Governor, we have often talked about the challenges we face and of the need to find common ground…This cooperation is not possible if legislators cannot trust the information we are given from any individual that serves in your administration.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I saw a post by Modern Esquire, which demonstrates there are a few of us out there who felt that Jones-Kelley should have been <a href="http://www.buckeyestateblog.com/odjfs_director_helen_jones_kelley_must_be_fired_ted" rel="nofollow">fired</a>.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://blog.dispatch.com/dailybriefing/2008/11/harris_fire_odjfs_director_imm.shtml#more" rel="nofollow">Dispatch</a> piece on Senate President Bill M. Harris demanding that Governor Strickland terminate two of the staffers is also a recommended read.  This one point is especially important:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Governor, we have often talked about the challenges we face and of the need to find common ground…This cooperation is not possible if legislators cannot trust the information we are given from any individual that serves in your administration.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t our legal system based on the presumption of innocence?  Why would a government run agency check the background of someone that committed no crime?  This whole thing stinks and all Strickland is doing is using Febreeze to cover up the smell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t our legal system based on the presumption of innocence?  Why would a government run agency check the background of someone that committed no crime?  This whole thing stinks and all Strickland is doing is using Febreeze to cover up the smell.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/11/state-agency-director-had-no-legitimate-reasons-to-check-wurzelbacher-and-more-local-searches/#comment-319271</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well considering that part of the interview process done by the Inspector General was to talk to those who held the position that Jones-Kelley had and stated it was not policy to check &quot;celebrities&quot; that the lottery winner thing was not done by them on a whim but by the request of the Lottery Commission, she should be terminated.  

That&#039;s without even going into the rest of it including the use of her state email.  

It was really interesting to read about the other two Toledo area record searches, there has been no media coverage on those, only the one related to McConnell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well considering that part of the interview process done by the Inspector General was to talk to those who held the position that Jones-Kelley had and stated it was not policy to check &#8220;celebrities&#8221; that the lottery winner thing was not done by them on a whim but by the request of the Lottery Commission, she should be terminated.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s without even going into the rest of it including the use of her state email.  </p>
<p>It was really interesting to read about the other two Toledo area record searches, there has been no media coverage on those, only the one related to McConnell&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Keeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Keeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a surprise.  We&#039;ll see what happens now I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a surprise.  We&#8217;ll see what happens now I guess.</p>
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