Comments on: ESM Hearing before Toledo City Council – Updates keep rolling…

By: neighborhood concerns

neighborhood concerns — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:20:40 +0000

“So that leaves The Blah. You get your “news” from the sorriest excuse for a “newspaper” in the entire state? Great choice”

Oddly enough if one cruises around the web, one sees a lot of commentary based on what local papers write in all regions of the country, even right here in our little slice of the world, the “Great choice” is used as a source of commentary and background.

If it is so bad, why use it as background?

The “reporting” a lot of the times is commentary based on what others have reported or written or blogged about.

If someone breaks a story, well then it is news.

If someone takes what someone else have reported on, they are merely commenting on what has been written and is not news.

By: LisaRenee

LisaRenee — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:59:57 +0000

If you listed to Fred's interview of Mark Sobczak which is online at WSPD it's possible that a grievance could be filed by one of the unions for the city which would create a scenario where the work could potentially have to paid for twice.

By: LisaRenee

LisaRenee — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:53:42 +0000

Paul, union workers as far as city workers were used in fixing up the ESM, it does not appear any of the contractors used were union.

I also think that a suggestion made that people that come up to speak before Council should have to state their home address is a valid one. It’s especially important when someone lives outside of Toledo. Owning a business in the city is great, but those who don’t live within Toledo while they should still be allowed to speak it seems dishonest to claim a Toledo address when speaking yet in reality live someplace else.

By: OurPaul

OurPaul — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:04:21 +0000

So……were union workers used in fixing up ESM????

By: tomjoad

tomjoad — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:57:44 +0000

I think it’s pretty hilarious that so many folks on this site sound so indignant about the city and/or any other government agencies being involved in the entertainment industry. Oh my. Say it isn’t so. let’s see, if I recall, this new 100-million dollar downtown arena is being put together, financed and hand maidened into extistence by public money. authority and power. Tell me again what private companies stepped forward to invest. Yeah right. Or what about Fifth Third field…Last I heard they still play baseball there — and if my memory is correct, I think the stadium (entertainment venue) is publicly held and guess what? The county owns the baseball team. Fortunately the will of those with vision won out over those who would have stopped the project in its conception because they didn’t want public money used. But then again, it always seems that while a few folks lead with vision and purpose, the vast majority would prefer to sit on margins and chatter like monkeys. Oh yes, what about Savage Hall? Somebody should tell UT that they too shouldn’t be in sports and entertainment business because it might encroach on Bill Delany’s pathetic smoky bar. Point here is that methinks the excuses and protestations are little more than just another barrage of limp excuses to have something to blame Carty for everything. Trust me – I’m no Carty fan, but we in Toledo are all kidding ourselves if we think the mayor is our biggest problem in the city. This last council meeting was yet but another distraction from the real priorities we should be dealing with. Look around folks- the city is melting economically as foreclosures fester and jobless lines increase monthly. I could go on. Despite the obvious threats that hang over this city, WSPD and their minions and folks like Mr. Collins continue to howl at the moon about Carty and other contrived issues and problems. So maybe Carty is a jerk, he’s still the least of our worries. Picking on him everyday is merely picking the fleas from the lion before it eats us.

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:55:32 +0000

Carty 48,899 61.89% to Jack 30,113 38.11%
http://www.co.lucas.oh.us/boe/OfficialResultsNovember2005.pdf

By: johnnyc

johnnyc — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:51:10 +0000

Does anyone have the election results when Carty ran for mayor against Ford? Was that election close or did Carty win hands down? Toledo knew what it was getting when he was elected didn’t
they?
Toledo needs a mayor that has the cheerleading capabilities of Carty and the ???? of Jack Ford.
I have a whole new respect for Jack after watching Coffee with the Fords. Where’d his wife do the cheerleading when Jack was in office, must have had it all bottled up for her television debut

By: Robin

Robin — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:31:14 +0000

I hope that councilperson Webb’s resolution to limit the money the mayor can spend will be on the ballot. Carty needs to be reigned in. It will also give me something to look forward to voting on, in November!

By: LisaRenee

LisaRenee — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:11:41 +0000

Chris the audio of the public comment section contains Stainbrook’s comments, it’s about one third of the way into that audio section.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:50:46 +0000

Chris,

Think birds of a feather…..