Breaking News: Jan Scotland will not be on November ballot
20 Aug 2008
Story in from a variety of sources, will update with links as soon as they are online that the Republican party had until 4pm to file paperwork to make Scotland official, but according to Pat Kriner a letter was faxed after 4:00 p.m. and is therefore invalid…
Fox Toledo broke the story, it’s on their website on the breaking news bar.
From the aboveforementioned story from FOX Toledo:
The Republican party had until 4pm to file paperwork to make Scotland official, but according to Kriner a letter was faxed after 4pm. The board consulted attorneys, but Kriner says a state statute demands that 4 pm be the deadline, and that deadline was missed.
Who’s responsibility was this?
August 20th, 2008 at 7:03 pmIt appears it was the responsibility of the Lucas County Republican Party when you read the ORC Section 3513.31:
(D) If a person nominated in a primary election as a party candidate for election at the next general election, whose candidacy is to be submitted to the electors of a district within a county, withdraws as that candidate or is disqualified as that candidate under section 3513.052 of the Revised Code, the vacancy in the party nomination so created may be filled by a district committee consisting of those members of the county central committee or, if so authorized, those members of the county executive committee in that county of the major political party that made the nomination at the primary election who represent the precincts or the wards and townships within the district, if the committee’s chairperson and secretary certify the name of the person selected to fill the vacancy by the time specified in this division, at a meeting called for that purpose. The district committee meeting shall be called by the chairperson of the county central committee or executive committee, as appropriate, who shall give each member of the district committee at least two days’ notice of the time, place, and purpose of the meeting. If a majority of the members of the district committee are present at the district committee meeting, a majority of those present may select a person to fill the vacancy. The chairperson and secretary of the district committee meeting shall certify in writing and under oath to the board of the county, not later than four p.m. of the seventy-sixth day before the day of the general election, the name of the person selected to fill the vacancy. The certification must be accompanied by the written acceptance of the nomination by the person whose name is certified. A vacancy that may be filled by an intermediate or minor political party shall be filled in accordance with the party’s rules by authorized officials of the party. Certification must be made as in the manner provided for a major political party.
According to the Secretary of States election calendar that date is today:
Aug. 20 – A political party or independent candidate’s nominating committee must certify the name of a person to fill a vacancy caused by the withdrawal of a candidate by 4 p.m.
August 20th, 2008 at 7:41 pmThis is a huge mistake for the GOP. I don’t know if this ever occurred before. Wasn’t it Jon who criticized the GOP for handing notice of the central committee in late? You would think he would be punctual on something such as this. Where are these scores of volunteers? You would think they would hand it in with plenty of time to spare. Jon should apologize or resign over this.
August 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pmI thought the Lucas County Republican Party had their act together????????????
August 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pmI DEMAND THE SKID MARKS RESIGNATION!
August 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pmEveryone knows that this is due to the Wack-Olman-Kriner love triangle. Joanne Wack stole silver in 1989, thus preventing an honest, hard-working citizen like Jan Scotland from getting on the ballot. I once saw Chris Myers talking to Joanne Wack. In summary, Tom Noe smells.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:31 pmPat Kriner will be on with Thursday (tomorrow) at 6:10a. I spoke with Linda Howe this evening, and Matt Bartow who sent the fax in question. And there is a very interesting side bar about Mr. Bartow and Mr. Stainbrook and where they were at 6:22p this evening. No suprise that Stainbrook isn’t returning calls.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pmFred, that’s one heck of a teaser for tomorrow.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:37 pmAt a bar?
August 20th, 2008 at 8:38 pmFox Toledo updated with this:
August 20th, 2008 at 8:40 pmRoss, how about a comment on the topic? We are waiting. BTW I know of a place where there is video of Jon Stainbrook talking to Wack, what does that mean? There is no video of our conversations
August 20th, 2008 at 8:40 pmLR if Jon did say that, it will make for an interesting he said/she said. This is just oozzing with drama.
Fred, were they in a car by MCO?
August 20th, 2008 at 8:43 pmRoss was using satire and Ross? You need to use a valid email, as you’ve done in the past.
Chris, yes it appears to be another drama adventure, if that is true, considering they’ve made it a point to say they don’t trust the current BOE, if I were them, I wouldn’t take their word for anything. It took all of two minutes to look up the requirements in the ORC and I’m not a lawyer.
Nor does that explain why if they thought everything was in they would try to fax it today after 4:00 p.m.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pmLR it is funny Ross is using satire because what he/she said sounds just like something someone in Jon’s group would say. For the record, I even know how many dogs Joanne has and what color the Cujo looking dog is.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:56 pmOuch. If a simple filing of sending a fax before the 4pm deadline is an indication of sorts. Did we want him on the ballot and win? Just my thought. I don’t know who the man is.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:59 pmTechnically Ross’s comment should be deleted since he did not include a valid email – however, by IP address looking at past comments? I concluded it was meant as sarcasm/satire. Since you commented deleting the comment would probably create more questions than leaving it – hence the reminder to Ross to make sure he uses a valid email or I’ll have to delete future comments.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:00 pmMaybe the skid mark should ask joanne wack for lessons on how to slide postings under the door to avoid this in the future.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pmFred, Bartow was kicking cats, wasn’t he? Damn Kat Kicker!
But seriously, it sounds like the Republican Election workers were doing a lousy job of looking out for a candidate. I wonder what Kriner will say about letting a fellow republican down, like that.
Isn’t Paddy O’Kriner the chairman of the BOE. I feel the love in the GOP!
August 20th, 2008 at 9:02 pmTina, election law can be confusing which is why some of us (myself included) learned the hard way to check the calendar that the SOS provides and to at least have a basic knowledge of the requirements set out in the ORC. Or to contact the Secretary of State’s office if there is a question.
It appears in this scenario what was required was needed from the Party though time will tell who was responsible. Jan Scotland could have checked with the BOE or the SOS.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:03 pmCan’t say I have a whole lot of confidence in the Lucas Co BOE. It took two mailed in requests as well as three follow up phone calls to assure that I will be able to vote using my new address…After a mess like this on behalf of a candidate by the BOE, glad I did my follow up when I did! Sheesh…what a mess.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:08 pmIt also looks like Rogue that the chairman of a party should develop better lines of communication, if it’s the responsibility of the chairman of the BOE to notify candidates that they didn’t meet a deadline.
The spin on this trying to turn it to blame on the BOE is going to be interesting, at least we know where the Blade will head with it. When mine was messed up? It was my fault, I’m the person responsible for making sure things are done properly…
Mindy, the deadline for voter registration is October 6th, depending on when you filed your address change it does take time to show up in the system. I do advise that anyone, no matter which county they live in take the time to check prior to October 6th if they have moved. Or to check online, the information is on the Secretary of State’s website.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:13 pmHaving been in this situation myself, the sole responsiblity for filing the paperwork lies with the local party. The form should have been signed the night Scotland was endorsed and filed with the BOE the very next morning.
The republican board workers are NOT – in any way – responsible for the party filing the proper paperwork. I predicted, on my blog, that this will somehow be spun to be the fault of Kriner and Olman etc…
But I cannot say it any plainer – it’s not the role of the BOE to make sure the local parties or any candidates file their forms on time. They don’t go out and make sure that all the people who file signatures get them in before the deadline – so why should this filing of a vacancy be any different? It’s not!
Major screw-up by the party. True test of leadership will be how it’s handled….
August 20th, 2008 at 9:17 pmOh Miss Lisa,
You are so right, dilligence pays off! But I have to wonder just how long it takes to process a change of address submitted at a ‘non-critical’ time. I guess I’d understand the time it took ( first week of July submitted – last week confirmed) if it was closer to that October deadline. Oh well, I suppose there are just some things mere mortals wern’t meant to understand!
August 20th, 2008 at 9:20 pmMaggie, you predicted right, and thanks for your comment, I did not think that was part of the job responsibilities. Your post is a recommended read.
Mindy we learned that the hard way, we assumed one of my daughters was registered to vote, and discovered too late that it did not appear the form was turned in. Everything in life ends up being a lesson, similar to Maggie’s thoughts, it’s the true test of each of us if we accept responsibility for what part was within our control or not…
August 20th, 2008 at 9:43 pmAny second, GOPRecruits and his merry band of apologists will post the reasons this basic achievement of actually using a fax machine eluded the chairman, the same chairman that takes 0.004 seconds to file a lawsuit.
Any second now…..
August 20th, 2008 at 9:47 pmJuly isn’t exactly a non-critical period for the Board of Elections; they had the Anthony Wayne special election to put on, as well as dealing with state-wide petitions (verifying 30,000 signatures) and several candidates have been out doing voter registration drives.
This situation with Scotland is truly unfortunate; he’s been out working hard, going door-to-door, press conferences, etc., and now it is all for nothing.
Anytime you file a campaign-related document with the board of elections, you get a receipt; personally I usually take a copy of what I am filing and get it time/date stamped for my records. If Stainbrook filed something that he thought put Scotland on the ballot, he should have receipt. No receipt … no proof that anything was filed. Any one who has dealt with the BoE and getting candidates on the ballot should know simple verbal or telephone communications are not enough to get anything or anyone on the ballot.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:48 pmsorry, I meant “undertaking”, not “achievement”.
need to type after I’m done laughing my arse off….
August 20th, 2008 at 9:54 pm“# # 17 meghan Says:
August 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Maybe the skid mark should ask joanne wack for lessons on how to slide postings under the door to avoid this in the future.”
You are not serious about this! You are actually going to try and dredge up Joanne Wack again over the utter incompetence of Jon Stainbrook and Matt Bartow! Seriously get a life! Joanne Wack is gone and no longer has a say in anything. Bringing her up again at a time like this is truly the last defense of a witless person.
This screw up rests solely on Jon Stainbrook’s poor leadership and by proxy his criminal henchman like Matt Bartow. He should resign immediately over this, but we all know he will make a million excuses and hide for while until the heat blows over. Wait maybe through some miracle he can blame Joanne Wack and Bob Reichert again, he never seems to tire of that defense.
Stainbrook wanted a vote of no confidence for the two BOE members, but it looks like the no confidence vote should be for Jon!
August 20th, 2008 at 9:54 pmThe BOE is not allowed to show favoritism to any party or candidate, calling in a friendly reminder to the GOP would have violated those rules. Do you think they had to call Scotland’s opponent and remind her to file her paperwork? Is the BOE now the secretary for Stainbrook?
If the BOE would have called him to remind him of this important date he would have screamed foul just to make them look bad anyhow.
One has to wonder if he did this on purpose just to get his name in the paper again.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:56 pmWasn’t the “reason” The Skid Mark wanted the two Republican representatives removed from the BOE was because they were not “team players”?
Seems they’re the only two that know the rules.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:59 pmWell, if only Dee Dee had shown some guts and filed charges against Bartow maybe this circus could have been avoided….
August 20th, 2008 at 10:04 pmDuh – I spoke to both the Toledo police and Sylvania Township police, and quite honestly both passed the buck (where did the crime, ‘if’ there was one, occur?), leaving me with little option. Judge Christiansen did file charges, there was some sort of settlement and restitution. One would think that would have been enough for everyone within the party to cut ties with Bartow, but apparently not.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:17 pmI just would like to know why the topic has gone to barttow. he has nothing to do with the board members not telling jon that the paper work was not correct after he had called and asked if everything was in order. pat and lynn are going to screw someone that they have called there friend just to make john look bad.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:32 pmDeeDee
August 20th, 2008 at 10:36 pmJust a question…How does/should the LCRP determine which felaons to keep (Bartow/Wack) or which to dispose of (Wack/Bartow)? Is this normal around here?
their not there. sorry, sometimes I can’t help myself.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:36 pmDuh – Bartow was later charged with a crime by Judge Christiansen and forced to admit the crime in open court to avoid a felony conviction. That by itself should have been enough to keep both Bartow and Jon away, but it wasn’t.
The fact is the Party should have kept people like Jon Stainbrook and that criminal Bartow away from the Party, but many members of the Central Committee didn’t bother to show up the day of the vote to keep Jon and his criminal henchmen from winning. Unfortunately this is what you end up with when you have an apathetic Central Committee.
However I am going to make a forecast right now. The Bland newspaper will do a story on this, but since Jon is their boy they will write a piece that clouds the issue and slants it in Jon’s favor, i.e. the BOE “mislead” him or told him something that wasn’t true. Follow that up with a few quotes from Jon where he says this is why he wanted to replace BOE members to stop this type of abuse and blah blah. The end result is nobody will put the pressure on Jon to step down which is the only decent thing he can do at this point.
On a positive note, without any Republican candidates on the ballot Jon and Bartow won’t have anyone to steal from this year, which will really put a crimp on he and Bartow’s earning potential for the election season.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:37 pmfelons not felaons. again, sorry
August 20th, 2008 at 10:38 pmCute….but true
August 20th, 2008 at 10:39 pmTracker – hahahahahahaha! good stuff!
August 20th, 2008 at 10:40 pmLet me get this straight. Larry “Matt” Bartow is working in the Lucas County Republican Party?! This guy is an admitted embezzler. Bartow is currently or has been in a felony diversion program for STEALING from Lucas County Republican candidates just a few years ago. Here is a link to the article about Bartow and his criminal past. http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060505/NEWS03/605050447 So tonight we learned that Matt Bartow, a person who admitted embezzling from Republican candidates, is still actively running the Lucas County Republican Party.
That is the real story — an admitted felon running the Lucas County Republican Party.
Jon Stainbrook needs to immediately remove Bartow from the Lucas County Republican Party. Is Bartow embezzling other money from the Lucas County Republican Party? Has anyone audited the Lucas County Republican books since Stainbrook and his band of criminals took over?
Bartow is just the tip of the iceberg of this criminal conspiracy.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:46 pmNick, perhaps you missed the part where it’s been stated that it wasn’t the responsibility of the BOE to tell the party chairman what he needed to do. The ORC and a former elected official who actually went through the process make that fairly clear.
There are procedures and rules and they are easily available. Jon and his friends are very knowledgeable when it comes to how to search the Ohio Revised code, especially when it comes to election issues. They also have access to the Secretary of State’s calendar which clearly lists the exact section of the ORC that it references.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pmWhat?!
Larry “Matt”‘ Bartow screwing up something for GOP candidates!
Unprecedented………
August 20th, 2008 at 10:55 pmEmily
August 20th, 2008 at 10:56 pmThanks for the spell check…I did sit up to post this! I shall strive to do better!
But is there an answer to my question??
This is just a mess, pure and simple. I have deceased war veterans in my family as do many others on this blog, and one thing is for sure: they didn’t die for this SHIT.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:56 pmLisa R. said – “Jon and his friends are very knowledgeable when it comes to how to search the Ohio Revised code, especially when it comes to election issues.”
Come on Lisa, don’t let facts get in the way of a good dodge by that incompetent moron Jon Stainbrook and his criminal henchmen.
Also I see that some of Jon’s cheerleaders have joined us to be his mind numbing defense team. Seriously mindyj124 are you really so poor of a debater that you have bring up Wack… again? For the zillionth time, she is gone, has been for almost 3 months now. We are concerned about the felon who is actually still part of the LCRP tonight…Bartow, but hey, just throw Wack’s name around some more and maybe people will forget about Jon’s incompetence.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:58 pmI am shocked that Jon Stainbrook would associate with someone like Matt Bartow. This guy was convicted of stealing from republican candidates, a judge no less, and he is still involved?! What are they thinking at the LCRP? Why would they have this person of ill repute hanging around?
August 20th, 2008 at 10:59 pmI’m not a fan nor apologist for Stainbrook or Bartow…but the responsibility for this lies with the party chairman who is Stainbrook. Even if he delegated to Bartow the duty of filing the papers, it was still Stainbrook who needed to ensure it was done.
And a fax doesn’t count as a filing …
August 20th, 2008 at 11:04 pmDear Tracker,
August 20th, 2008 at 11:05 pmWhile not a great debater, I was just reading the her name mentioned earlier in the post as a criminal as well as Bartow as a criminal…just attempting to get a handle on the political weather in Lucas County. I see its just not that ‘warm and sunny’ around here. Sorry…won’t bother y’all further.
mindyj124 – Since the stain demanded that Wack be removed and felt her prior conviction (in 1989) tarnished the party it would be a rather simple judgment to make that someone who was convicted of stealing FROM A CANDIDATE of the party that he is currently working for should probably not be involved. Simple answer, remove them both.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pmConsider using your silly head next time you decide to ask a stupid question.
I’d have to agree that the whole Wack story line has surpassed the beating the dead horse stage. As has been pointed out more than once, and more than twice, there is a selectivity issue here. If it is wrong to have people with records in the party, then it should be the same standard for all.
Considering the past research that was done on the records of those currently in leadership positions, it’s impossible for anyone to argue with a straight face that Wack’s record matters in comparison.
Nor does it really have any bearing on what happened but the Blade and Jon have made her famous. Too bad she can’t earn royalties on each time her name is mentioned…
August 20th, 2008 at 11:16 pmShe would be a wealthy girl! Particularly on this blog, many fans!
August 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pmI remember back when Lisa had a post almost 3 months ago about Jon stealing, er, I mean “winning” the chair position position for the LCRP and his cheerleaders came out in droves to the blog to tell us we should just give the anointed one 3-6 months to prove how good he was and how much he would turn this party around from its corrupt past…
Unfortunately the record is not looking so good. At least one near felon is still in the party [Bartow] and now this demonstration of utter incompetence with Jan Scotland, which he has now taken the position that the BOE lied to him! Really!?! A conspiracy at the highest levels of government all out to get Jon Stainbrook!?! How original.
You know Jon (and any of his witless defenders reading right now) when you find yourself in a hole…stop digging! Step down and crawl back under whatever rock you came from. Quit blaming others for your own incompetence!
Maybe I am being too harsh, possibly another three months of incompetent leadership who is still surrounding himself with criminals, criminals he vowed to remove, will fix everything.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:20 pmNow, back to Larry “”"matt” Bartow. Isn’t that what we were discussing before being rudely interrupted. Who wants to be next to trash?
August 20th, 2008 at 11:22 pmI call shinnanigans! This goes well beyond incompetence. I’m not into black helicopters, but this has the morbid stench of foul play. The only challenger to the commissioner seat, with a solid chance to win??? What decade is this? Did someone exhume Joseph Kennedy and Richard Daly to pull this B.S.??? More importantly, why the hell did I buy land in this morality forsaken county?!? So help me God, heads will roll…
August 20th, 2008 at 11:34 pmInteresting that the blade does not have this story as “developing news”, they must be too busy trying to spin this to not make the stain look bad. One would think that Tom Troy, the lackey of the stain, would have the story written by now. After all, don’t they need to go to print soon?
August 20th, 2008 at 11:36 pmSort of the same coverage they gave to the stain when he got caught with his pants down!
August 20th, 2008 at 11:37 pmAnonymous – Oh come on, the Blade is not writing anything about this because it is old news. Nobody wants to hear about this stuff anymore, let’s move on to more current material like Joanne Wack!
IF the Blade writes anything about this it will be buried in the deepest, darkest recesses of the paper where even the most dedicated readers don’t venture and will be soooo slanted to cover Jon’s incompetent backside that you will think it was written by his own mother.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:41 pmHow unfortunate this is for all of us. Once again Toledo politics succumbs to a one party system. Republicans as a whole will come across as ineffectual and perhaps, inconsequential with regards to local politics.
I wonder who will/can provide the leadership needed to bring the Republican party to the level of respect needed. This fallout can go beyond Toledo and spill out to the suburbs. Sure the Republicans have individual groups but I am reminded of that famous quote from a signer of the Declaration of Independence…”we will hang together or we will hang apart”.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:42 pm“a solid chance to win’? Who are you kidding? Whatever deal that Jan Scotland made with the stain was a joke.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:43 pmDid no one else notice the fabulous placement his candidacy announcement got in the local daily? page 4 under the obituary! It was an omen!
Now that is what I call a challenge for Tina!
Sooo, a po’ black republican can’t get a break in Lucas County?
August 20th, 2008 at 11:44 pmRogue, you can’t play the race card, you aren’t Democrats.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:45 pmAnonymous, had the Blade really pushed for Scotland it could have helped him, it has helped other candidates win. It seemed as if that was what would happen when Stainbrook recruited Scotland to run. Some believed this run was not to win, but to get name recognition for a Mayoral run.
August 20th, 2008 at 11:48 pmOkay, I just put away the bottle of Jack Daniels and a half a pack of cigarettes and my nerves are calming a bit. I am starting to see things rationally. If Jon Stainbrook and his associates did what they should have done, they would have kept a record of it. Any idiot who can figure out a fax machine knows that when you send time sensitive documents, you can set just about any fax machine made this decade to print you a “transaction record” of said fax, which will clearly show how many pages you sent to what phone number at a particular time, and that they were sent successfully. If they can’t produce this, then they’ve got some explaining to do, Lucy.
Lisa, the only way the Blade would push for any Republican – black, white or what have you – would be if they crawled on their belly all the way to Pittsburgh and kissed JBR’s crusty, old, wrinkly posterior. And if Mr. Scotland did such a thing, I say good riddance to bad rubbish.
This may be foolish to say considering where we live, but nobody is this incompetent. There is a rat somewhere in the political ranks with brass clockweights for testicles and a brain half their size.
Whoever it is, had better start wearing a cup. My foot has an itchy trigger toe.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:05 amHey anonymous, if you want to debate GOP leadership in this county I’ll concede now. They’re all window dressing at the top, and the fact that this event even occurred proves that. I’m no card carrying Republican, just an ordinary everyday citizen that pays his bills, paid for his education, served his country, and made the colossal mistake of buying a home here, and is tired of the crap that gets force fed down his throat. But there are two choices to be made, turn tail and run, or stand up and say the buck stops here. One way or another, business as usual in this county is nearing its end.
And hell yes, he had a fighting chance! The man may not be the best speller in the world, but I’ll take a poor speller with conviction and good business sense over a man (or woman) with aspirations to be a professional politician any day –
there’s always spell checker.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:18 amaw look at Tina, ain’t she precious?
she’s so adorable getting her soild eight hour nap.
and she smiles in her sleep, how cute.
not a care in the world now, huh?
LOL
August 21st, 2008 at 3:25 amStainbrook on with me Thursday morning at 7a, let the dance begin.
August 21st, 2008 at 4:53 am# 7 fred Says:
August 20th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
“… And there is a very interesting side bar about Mr. Bartow and Mr. Stainbrook and where they were at 6:22p this evening. No suprise that Stainbrook isn’t returning calls.”
My guess is that they were partners in a cornhole competition.
August 21st, 2008 at 6:52 amThank you Santa for my early Christmas present!
August 21st, 2008 at 6:57 amWow, da stain must be a real freak. He is blaming everyone and their mama for his screw up. What a pitiful soul.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080821/NEWS09/808210384/-1/NEWS
August 21st, 2008 at 7:14 amHe was on WSPD just a few minutes ago, the blame game continues!
The question that needs to be answered is what is he doing with Matthew Bartow? The creep who STOLE from Judges and candidates and admitted it in court!
August 21st, 2008 at 7:36 amFrom the Blade “Mr. Stainbrook said that when he and Ms. Bensman learned of the deadline requirement shortly after 4 p.m., they requested permission to file late and initially were given approval, then submitted the filing after 6 p.m. by slipping it under the door, e-mailing it, and faxing it.”
So, he did slide it under the door. Wack is a good teacher.
August 21st, 2008 at 7:38 amAnd when he signed in to 1 Govt Ctr he put down he was going to 22nd floor and Bartow signed in at the same time and was also going to the 22nd floor. Are we all fooled by the floor switch? Gosh, I guess since they were going to 22 it could not have been the stain who slid this under the door.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:03 amAgain, what is he doing with the convicted thief, Matt Bartow?
I will repeat this again from my post #4: “I thought the Lucas County Republican Party had their act together????????????”
LMAO!!!!!!!!!! I will swallow a crow this morning since I thought Fred did a good job this morning on WSPD with the interviews. Now pardon me while I take a shower.
August 21st, 2008 at 8:08 am“Lucas County Republican Party Chairman Jon Stainbrook described Mr. Pellman as a “placeholder” in the November contest until a serious candidate could be found.”
Not exactly a ringing endorsement for the candidate.
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080725/NEWS09/807250343
August 21st, 2008 at 8:12 amis the party liable legally from a malpractice type standard? should they be sued over this?
August 21st, 2008 at 8:59 amIt’s so sad that now Pete JERKin and Skeldon Wozniak will be appointed as Lucas County Commissioners. This is no win on their part. This is such an insult to voters. It’s a shame we are denied our choice. I feel disenfranchised. Any chance in writing in Mr. Scotland’s name?
August 21st, 2008 at 9:02 amI’ll bet John Robinson Block is curled up on his fine leather upholstery giggling like a school girl. He ushers Stainbrook into the chairmanship fully aware that he would screw up the party (even more). Didn’t take long at all.
Anyone who didn’t see this coming is a friggin fool.
August 21st, 2008 at 9:06 amAnd yet conservative Lucas County citizens wonder when we will have more than a “placeholder” in any local political positions, and why the GOP is not gaining strength.
Situations like this drive away the best and brightest libertarian/conservative/GOP candidates from entering the fray, and allow the time proven strangle hold Democrats have on NW Ohio to ever tighten around our necks and wallets. Brava Mr. Pellman, Jeff Simpson and the like – at least your brave enough to enter the contest. Shame, Shame SHAME!! upon you Stainbrook and party.
I, however, will cowardly lob comments from the sidelines of the blogosphere.
TAHL
August 21st, 2008 at 9:53 amIt would be rather entertaining to see the stain on the receiving end of a lawsuit for a change. Maybe Jan or some disenfranchised voter should file one. Stainbrook took away the voters choice and should have to pay !
August 21st, 2008 at 9:59 amI agree with #79. Sue the a hole.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:30 amHere’s the deal:
Stainbrook who is this self described “politically experienced operator” with years and years of political involvement should know that it requires something to be filed (ie. Petitions) along the lines that most standard candidates have to do. You just don’t expect the BOE to read the paper and see what candidates have announced and put them on the ballot do you?
Bartow who is actively working alongside Stain has the experience dealing with these issues to have known better.
Scotland should have known that it requires more than just filing a designation of treasurer form. That form and filing candidacy paperwork are two wholly different things. He does have that experience as a former elected official and candidate. I suspect that he asked the question along the lines of “Is this form all I need to set up a campaign finance account?”. He probably wasn’t referring to getting on the ballot. And if he was he didn’t make himself clear or back to the original thought, he should have known better from his past experience.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:33 amThe difficult part of the lawsuit would be finding someone brave enough to file it. Don’t think the blade won’t go digging into their background to find every unpaid parking ticket or classmate from kindergarten who would be willing to go on the record saying he stole their crayons. They would paint the person into a monster just to cover their useful idiot’s behind.
August 21st, 2008 at 10:37 amI’ve never trusted the fact the Stainbrook is friends with John R. Block. Block and the blade are in no way friends of anything Republican. You have to wonder if JRB has a master plan to further destroy any resurgeance of a Republican Party in Lucas County and Stainbrook and the other minions are taking marching orders. I wonder if the blade will write an editorial about Stainbrook’s bumbling on this very important issue.
I am totally disenfranchised!!!!!!
August 21st, 2008 at 10:52 amStainbrook is too stupid to realize he was used as a pawn by JRB and the Blade. In 2004 Lucas County turned out 40% for George Bush. This was coincidentally the same election that Jon Stainbrook was working for John Kerry’s campaign… being the good Republican that he is.
I digress, the Blade and many national and I am sure local Democrats caught a lot s*it for not crushing this effort and making sure Lucas County turned out well under 40% for Bush.
Making sure he would not be outdone in 2008 JRB used Stainbrook as a pawn by writing tons of free puff pieces to insure public opinion would go his way and get him in the chair position. He knew if he could get Jon in there that Jon would deliver award winning incompetence and insure that Lucas county would never come close to turning out 40% for McCain this November.
Need more proof? How about the puff pieces that the City Paper wrote. That liberal rag has never said a nice thing about a single Republican in its entire pathetic history… until Stainbrook came along. Does anyone honestly believe that the City Paper cared about a strong and revived LCRP? If you do you are living in a world of fantasy. Their purpose was the same as JRB, put an incompetent idiot like Stainbrook in there and watch the fallout.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:13 amI say any resident of Lucas County that wanted to cast a vote for Mr. Scotland should claim they are disenfranchised and we want our voice heard. I am contacting the Secretary of State’s office. We have no choice in our county leaders. They are now appointed. Stainbrook needs to resign right now. His lack of effective leadership in dropping this ball is reason enough for his stepping down.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:23 amummm, as much as it would be fantastic to have Jan in the running, it’s more fantastic watching the events unfold showing the beginning of the end of The Skid Mark®
August 21st, 2008 at 11:38 amPam,
Go for it. These incompetents could not even follow the regulations to get on the ballot and you want to vote for them. That, unfortunately says much about you.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:06 pmAbe –
Did you not read what I wrote? The incompetent is Stainbrook himself. Put blame where it is due. Lucas County voters should have a choice, we shouldn’t be faced with career politicians and the name Skeldon appointed to county positions. Tell me what makes Mr. Scotland incompetent? I would be voting for him, not Stainbrook. I’m sure your answer will tell me a lot about you.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:19 pmYou should call the Ohio Republican Party to complain about this issue, the # is 614-228-2481. I suppose you should ask for Bob Bennett, the website lists him as the Chairman.
August 21st, 2008 at 12:34 pmGreat idea, Emily. Thank you for the information!
August 21st, 2008 at 12:41 pmI’m a bit disappointed. I was hoping that at least one of the sitting county commissioner would out of here, in November. It’s not a true “race” if only one person is running. Geez… if you thought these people were smug, before…
August 21st, 2008 at 3:07 pmI agree with you Robin. JERKin and Wozniak will not have won anything. They are merely appointed. But, of course they will “celebrate” their win and ‘graciously thank their supporters.’ I don’t care, when I vote I will say I want to write in a candidate. That is my right, I won’t be disenfranchised.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:21 pmKeep on writing, Pam. Good luck with that. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Start dancing and make some wine. Oh that would be “whine” for you.
August 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pmYikes Abe, a little harsh there. Pam just wants to have a choice in this election and not let the current commissioners get a free ride. There is probably nothing that can be done except write him in.
Also, I called the Ohio R Party, did not speak with Bob Bennett but did speak with his assistant, Pat. Please call! The more calls we make the better chance we have of getting rid of this joke plaguing our county!
August 21st, 2008 at 4:24 pmYou’ve already rid yourselves of Mr. Reichert and Joanne Wack. Why not let “the Stain” bungle things for awhile??
August 21st, 2008 at 4:29 pmI don’t blame Pam for being angry. I’m angry, too. I feel robbed! I can understand why it’s hard to find people who want to go in for the running for this job. I don’t think I’d want to do it either (not that I am qualified). But, I think the voters of Lucas County deserve a choice. It’s just too bad that Mr. Scotland’s people weren’t efficient enough to turn in the proper paperwork on time.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:13 pmBut Robin, a simple damp squib is qualified. Don’t sell yourself short.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:27 pmI called Bob Bennett and he was busy putting together (false) negative advertisements to use against the Dems in the fall. Then he was headed off to the golf course to play with Bob Taft and Tom Noe’s lawyers.
The man still has his priorities straight after all these years.
August 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 pmWow, we had GOPRecruits apologists comming out of our collective ears when GOPRecruits was elected leader of the LCGOP.
Now, when GOPRecruits goes and drops the ball, not one peep.
No worries, here is when we’ll see if the GOP leader has any kind of formation associated with nads compared to the Democrat Leader,but any kind of sanction towards Jon over this will illuminate Chris’ true incompetience.
August 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 amOf course you didn’t dissapoint me, Abe. Your “answer” speaks volumes. What an impressive mind you possess. I’m in awe of the awesomeness that is The Ghost of Abe Vigoda.
August 25th, 2008 at 12:12 am