Comments on: Blogging w nyelv

By: neighborhood concerns

neighborhood concerns — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:00:13 +0000

This is no surprise given your statements.

Tolerance is a bad thing, I guess.

By: Not Again

Not Again — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:50:29 +0000

“Maybe we should the turn the welcome sign off and close our borders.”
Very good, very good. For once I agree with you NC!

By: neighborhood concerns

neighborhood concerns — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:57:36 +0000

History repeats itself.

Immigrants come to U.S., citizens react because they are different. Speak different languages and have different cultures and ways and want people to assimilate almost instantly.

Maybe we should the turn the welcome sign off and close our borders.

By: LisaRenee

LisaRenee — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:05:51 +0000

Betsy, I felt the same way when I watched the very first video of your dad speaking out on this issue, that’s why it made sense to me that if I was going to join in, I was going to use Hungarian.

I’m glad the Governor has stated if this bill comes before him that he’ll veto it, but I still think it was important that we share our thoughts on it.

By: Betsy Ujvagi

Betsy Ujvagi — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:48:19 +0000

You rock my socks, Lisa. This is awesome beyond words. My father sent me the audio of his statement on the floor regarding this issue, and 15 minutes later I was still sitting at my computer, slightly dazed, absorbing it all.

Solidarity, sister. Köszönöm.

By: Gloria Ferris » Blog Archive » Blogging in Tongues Against HB 477 Rcap

Gloria Ferris » Blog Archive » Blogging in Tongues Against HB 477 Rcap — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:04:57 +0000

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By: Craig-The Unoriginal

Craig-The Unoriginal — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:21:38 +0000

Ujvagi nails it.
This bill is worthless because there are no Ohio government agencies that retain their records in a language other than English and the bill contains no provisions for promoting or expanding English language training.
A pointless legislative exercise that does nothing to address any of the problems Ohio is actually facing.
Pathetic.

By: at bitter-girl :: musings

at bitter-girl :: musings — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:19:53 +0000

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By: Emily

Emily — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:12:35 +0000

Well, they wouldn’t come to the country knowing English automatically, would they? There is a process to become a US Citizen. This bill does not really change anything. Where I am now in California, it’s predominantly Hispanic. I’m sure a bill like this would never pass through California legislature, but even if it did, all signs would still be printed in Spanish and English out of pure necessity.

It’s just good business practice to make sure that the majority of your customers (and citizens) understand what you’re trying to sell.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:07:18 +0000

Ah, but you missed my main point. My grandmother’s neighbor was the same age – same generation as my grandmother. All the farm families in that region came from the same northern european region and spoke the same old-country language at home. But some CHOSE not to master English – in the same generation as my grandmother. They went to the same grammar school, had the same teachers, and attended church together in their youth. In this case (and many current cases I believe) it was not a generational thing – it was a conscious choice of one family to assimilate, and another to hold on to old country ways.

I also believe that the more this and related issues are framed as “entitlements” (things like printing signs in dual languages), which they are not, the more the majority of Americans are going to dig their heels in on all of the issues surrounding immigration. These little inky dinky regional wars might appear to be won, but I see this entire issue as waving a red flag in front of majority American public opinion, and it will only harden public opinion on immigration. Of course the governor is going to veto – it’s a political hot potato – he wouldn’t dare do anything else. But voters watch all attempts to have things shoved down their throarts, and file them in their memory banks. I don’t think Strickland will be elected for a 2nd term, regardless of how “teflon” he appears at the moment. And this will be one of the many reasons.