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		<title>By: Chad Quigley</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277487</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How will they ever figure out where the fire started in 1 Gov. with so much smoke and steam escaping on the top two floors??..hehehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How will they ever figure out where the fire started in 1 Gov. with so much smoke and steam escaping on the top two floors??..hehehehe</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277458</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if Council will review it, if the group of owners gets a restraining order then they would probably have to but if it&#039;s not granted then they&#039;d have to take other steps.

If it ends up being declared unconstitutional that&#039;s a whole different issue, so at this point it depends on what happens in the courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if Council will review it, if the group of owners gets a restraining order then they would probably have to but if it&#8217;s not granted then they&#8217;d have to take other steps.</p>
<p>If it ends up being declared unconstitutional that&#8217;s a whole different issue, so at this point it depends on what happens in the courts.</p>
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		<title>By: neighborhood concerns</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277457</link>
		<dc:creator>neighborhood concerns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s the purpose of the discussion NC,...&quot;

Yup, well aware of that fact.

The outcome could have been seen when people wanted to restrict what businesses could or could not do, and there is no legislation that will apply equally to all concerns.

&quot;There has to be a balance between neighborhoods and business, and some feel this particular legislation is not balanced. Some do.&quot;

Yup and some on both sides will not agree, at all.

And Council will review and make a stand or try and flip the legislation to accommodate the wants and desires of businesses and will the residents complain and the whole cycle starts again.

Business friendly city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s the purpose of the discussion NC,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup, well aware of that fact.</p>
<p>The outcome could have been seen when people wanted to restrict what businesses could or could not do, and there is no legislation that will apply equally to all concerns.</p>
<p>&#8220;There has to be a balance between neighborhoods and business, and some feel this particular legislation is not balanced. Some do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup and some on both sides will not agree, at all.</p>
<p>And Council will review and make a stand or try and flip the legislation to accommodate the wants and desires of businesses and will the residents complain and the whole cycle starts again.</p>
<p>Business friendly city?</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277456</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the purpose of the discussion NC, did the legislation go too far and is it creating an undue problem for the 270 convenience stores in the Toledo area or is it something that is felt to be acceptable.

There has to be a balance between neighborhoods and business, and some feel this particular legislation is not balanced.  Some do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the purpose of the discussion NC, did the legislation go too far and is it creating an undue problem for the 270 convenience stores in the Toledo area or is it something that is felt to be acceptable.</p>
<p>There has to be a balance between neighborhoods and business, and some feel this particular legislation is not balanced.  Some do.</p>
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		<title>By: neighborhood concerns</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277455</link>
		<dc:creator>neighborhood concerns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t the legislation a reaction to citizen comments about crime and so on around the stores.

So the council does what people want, and now the businesses are complaining. 

Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the legislation a reaction to citizen comments about crime and so on around the stores.</p>
<p>So the council does what people want, and now the businesses are complaining. </p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaRenee</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277451</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, given your comment?  It&#039;s going to be veryyyyy interesting.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, given your comment?  It&#8217;s going to be veryyyyy interesting.</p>
<p><img src="http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/wp-smiley-switcher/noktahhitam/icon_smile.gif" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Maxson</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277450</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Maxson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karyn McConnell-Handcock?

sweet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karyn McConnell-Handcock?</p>
<p>sweet!</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277444</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve heard that a group of them have retained a lawyer.&quot;

Word on the street is, three of the finest legal minds in Toledo are on the case...

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve heard that a group of them have retained a lawyer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Word on the street is, three of the finest legal minds in Toledo are on the case&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/wp-smiley-switcher/noktahhitam/icon_wink.gif" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: el Mahico</title>
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		<dc:creator>el Mahico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things are not always as they appear in politics, son. 

A word to the wise - Don&#039;t take anything at face value. Especially around Finkbeiner.  He is a master at deception. 

I was there the day Ludeman threw his support behind Finkbeiner in September 2005 at a press conference in District 2.  You would have thought they were best buddies.  And since they are both Republican, deep down they have a lot of similar philosophies and beliefs. 

(did anyone miss what a great guy &#039;Democrat&#039; Finkbeiner said Republican John McCain is ? Does anyone remember Finkbeiner as a Republican first, trying to unseat Democrat Lud Ashley for a Congressional seat ?)
That was back in the 70&#039;s, son - before your time. 

Finkbeiner is a Republican in Democrat clothing.  
You just have not had the same exposure to and experiences with Finkbeiner as I have.  

Finkbeiner is a true snake in the grass. 
I am sorry that you are still under his spell.  

P.S.  If my &quot;diatribe&quot;  is too much for you, try this technique... The names of the authors of a comment are always first.  When you see &#039;el Mahico&#039; at the beginning of a comment, just don&#039;t read it. 

That should solve your problem.  And you can go on in bliss, still believing that &quot;Carty gets RESULTS&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things are not always as they appear in politics, son. </p>
<p>A word to the wise &#8211; Don&#8217;t take anything at face value. Especially around Finkbeiner.  He is a master at deception. </p>
<p>I was there the day Ludeman threw his support behind Finkbeiner in September 2005 at a press conference in District 2.  You would have thought they were best buddies.  And since they are both Republican, deep down they have a lot of similar philosophies and beliefs. </p>
<p>(did anyone miss what a great guy &#8216;Democrat&#8217; Finkbeiner said Republican John McCain is ? Does anyone remember Finkbeiner as a Republican first, trying to unseat Democrat Lud Ashley for a Congressional seat ?)<br />
That was back in the 70&#8217;s, son &#8211; before your time. </p>
<p>Finkbeiner is a Republican in Democrat clothing.<br />
You just have not had the same exposure to and experiences with Finkbeiner as I have.  </p>
<p>Finkbeiner is a true snake in the grass.<br />
I am sorry that you are still under his spell.  </p>
<p>P.S.  If my &#8220;diatribe&#8221;  is too much for you, try this technique&#8230; The names of the authors of a comment are always first.  When you see &#8216;el Mahico&#8217; at the beginning of a comment, just don&#8217;t read it. </p>
<p>That should solve your problem.  And you can go on in bliss, still believing that &#8220;Carty gets RESULTS&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockets Man</title>
		<link>http://glasscityjungle.com/wordpress/2008/04/convenience-store-owners-expressing-concern-over-special-use-permit-process/#comment-277408</link>
		<dc:creator>Rockets Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>el Mahico, what part do you NOT understand of what Lisa is saying in regards to this legislation: &quot;I don’t believe this legislation came from the Mayor, it was Rob Ludeman who presented I do believe and there were some that called for the Mayor to veto it, which would suggest the legislation did not come from the Administration.&quot;

As I do recall this legislation was created by the council and voted by the council, so where is the logic of you attacking the mayor when he had nothing to do with it to begin with?

Your diatribe against the mayor is a bit old nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>el Mahico, what part do you NOT understand of what Lisa is saying in regards to this legislation: &#8220;I don’t believe this legislation came from the Mayor, it was Rob Ludeman who presented I do believe and there were some that called for the Mayor to veto it, which would suggest the legislation did not come from the Administration.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I do recall this legislation was created by the council and voted by the council, so where is the logic of you attacking the mayor when he had nothing to do with it to begin with?</p>
<p>Your diatribe against the mayor is a bit old nowadays.</p>
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